Aerofly pro deluxe

Tue Mar 22 16:23:20 AKST 2005

Ken:
It's going to take a lot of doing; it's a lot of work to get this stuff 
down and usable.  If we could do it with graphics, it would be better 
than filming it; Eric tried to film some figures about 3 or 4 years ago, 
with some results that he found unsatisfactory.  I believe we could have 
much better control over graphics than film; and believe me, I've filmed 
a whole lot of model airplanes.  But, bottom line, we've got to do 
something better than a 15 year old film.  Things have progressed too 
far for us to be standing still.

Bill Glaze
D2 VP

Ken Thompson III wrote:

> I looked at it right away, and Bill, I hope some other people jump on 
> board with you in getting this done.  I, for one, would like to see 
> it.  I'm not proficient enough at flying, unless you are just looking 
> for what not to do, or I would buy the software necessary and put 
> something together to try it out.
> I think what Bob P. has on his site is an awesome visual aid, it has 
> some great potential.
>
> Ken
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Glaze" <billglaze at triad.rr.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 4:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Aerofly pro deluxe
>
>
>> To get an idea about what I'm talking about, I wish everybody on this 
>> list would take a little time and see just what Bob has done.  Bill 
>> glaze
>>
>> John Ferrell wrote:
>>
>>> I think this stuff is great!
>>>
>>> John Ferrell
>>> http://DixieNC.US
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pastorello" <rcaerobob at cox.net>
>>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:04 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Aerofly pro deluxe
>>>
>>>
>>>> Here's a page with my early, crude attempts posted....Ken, you'll 
>>>> have to share with me how to get it optimized.
>>>> http://www.rcaerobats.net/downloads/videos.htm
>>>>
>>>> Bob Pastorello
>>>> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
>>>> rcaerobob at cox.net
>>>> www.rcaerobats.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Thompson III" 
>>>> <mrandmrst at comcast.net>
>>>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:02 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Aerofly pro deluxe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I just tried it at 60fps, it seems to make a big difference, not 
>>>>> much stutter, very watchable.  Only problem is the free version 
>>>>> only allows 30 sec. of vid.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll have to buy it now.  By the way, on my machine it 
>>>>> automatically turns it into a wmv. file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Thompson III" 
>>>>> <mrandmrst at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:57 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Aerofly pro deluxe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just downloaded the free version of FRAPS and used it once.  It 
>>>>>> has a little stutter on my machine, not terrible.  I'm going to 
>>>>>> try increasing the frame rate and see if it helps.
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pastorello" 
>>>>>> <rcaerobob at cox.net>
>>>>>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:44 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Aerofly pro deluxe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The BEST way is a true dual-monitor video card that has 
>>>>>>> configurable TV out; usually S video.  Instead of driving a 
>>>>>>> second monitor, you just drive a DVD recorder with the 2nd video 
>>>>>>> monitor NTSC output. It's an exact record, at the same frame 
>>>>>>> rate as the program.
>>>>>>> Nvidia has a pretty good dual head card, but a little expensive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob Pastorello
>>>>>>> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
>>>>>>> rcaerobob at cox.net
>>>>>>> www.rcaerobats.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Atwood, Mark" 
>>>>>>> <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
>>>>>>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 10:34 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Aerofly pro deluxe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well Bob...You weren't kidding about needing a honkin' PC.  I've 
>>>>>>> tried 3
>>>>>>> different video capture software programs and while FRAPS was the
>>>>>>> best...it's indeed like flying in slow motion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would be nice if there was a way to convert the recorded 
>>>>>>> flight into
>>>>>>> a wmv file, but obviously the program is merely recording the 
>>>>>>> positional
>>>>>>> and vector information and using the program to generate the 
>>>>>>> graphic.
>>>>>>> Still...there has to be a way!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the help...off to search for a SERIOUS Pc...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
>>>>>>> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Bob Pastorello
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:13 PM
>>>>>>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Aerofly pro deluxe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need a video grabbing software (I use "FRAPS", available as 
>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>> downloadable, just search a bit), and a SERIOUS, butt-whooping 
>>>>>>> PC that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> MEGA-GIGA triple-throw-down-hyper powerful fast with HUGE memory 
>>>>>>> to not
>>>>>>> record and bog frame rate to the teens.
>>>>>>> My AFPD runs nominal 60-80fps (have an Asus FX5200, 64mb video), 
>>>>>>> until I
>>>>>>> hit
>>>>>>> "record" in Fraps....then blooey- frame stutter, jerkiness, 
>>>>>>> etc.  But it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> does work....actually looks almost like a slow mode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Turn on "Aircraft Trace".  Turn on View 2 - Plane.  It works and 
>>>>>>> is fun.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clarifies lots of subtleties you might otherwise miss.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FRAPS records HUGE .avi files, which then have to be tweaked into
>>>>>>> .mpg.... I
>>>>>>> use Windows Video Manager for that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob Pastorello
>>>>>>> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
>>>>>>> rcaerobob at cox.net
>>>>>>> www.rcaerobats.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Ivey" 
>>>>>>> <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
>>>>>>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 7:06 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Aerofly pro deluxe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ask Bob Pastorello. He did it and it works pretty good. You can 
>>>>>>>> put on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> trailer or smoke and get a good view of the flight path.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jim Ivey
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: "Atwood, Mark" <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
>>>>>>>>> Date: 2005/03/20 Sun PM 08:01:13 EST
>>>>>>>>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Aerofly pro deluxe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone know how to save "recorded" flights as any kind of 
>>>>>>>>> standard
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> video
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> file that can be viewed in Windows Media player or such??
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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