Another box rule (discussion)

[J.Oddino]

It seems to me that the guy who puts the airplane where the judges can see it should score better than the guys that fly out in the next county.  And it is no more difficult to judge the ends of a square box than it is to judge the backline of the vee.  And who doesn't judge by impression?  The rules don't specify that things like roll rates, altitudes. and radii need to be the same on all maneuvers but we are not impressed if they vary all over the map from maneuver to maneuver.  I say forget the box but downgrade like mad for someone that is out of control on positioning and that includes being too high, too low, too far up wind or down wind, in too close or out too far.  Amen.

Jim O
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ron Van Putte 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:17 PM
  Subject: Re: Another box rule (discussion)



  On Mar 8, 2005, at 8:52 PM, Lance Van Nostrand wrote:


    The concept of a rectangular box, instead of one that is a "vee", is intriguing.  It's hard to judge, but it would allow closer in flight without detriment.


  And we could say, "Gee, now we're flying just like IMAC." I think they call it a "zoneless box", or something like that and they award "style points", or something like that. Just what we need, no box and impression judging. Back to the dark ages of judging! : (

  Ron Van Putte


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: BUDDYonRC at aol.com 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:18 AM
    Subject: Another box rule (discussion)

    There seems to be valid reasons to not change the present pattern box.
    There are also two seemingly valid questions / problems that the present box arrangement presents.
    1. Pilots flying optimum distance out increase the chance of mid air collision.
    2. Pilots who are somewhat vision limited who would prefer to fly closer in.
    A possible solution would be to revise the box rules to allow a person who in advance of his flight accepts a 2% total flight score downgrade to fly in closer and violate the 60 degree box lines without further downgrade.
    How about some comments and opinions and any other ideas which would address these issues.
    Please don't boot me off of the list again I'm just trying to do my Job.
    Buddy
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