growing pattern

Grow Pattern pattern4u at comcast.net
Tue Mar 8 04:46:52 AKST 2005


The issue isn't where it is working. There is nothing to fix there. The issue is where it is not working.

We really don't have a way of reaching the regular club pilot who is reasonably skilled and ready (ripe) for a challenge. If we are not at the field we are not seen.

Regards,

Eric.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Terry Terrenoire 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Cc: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 6:05 AM
  Subject: Re: growing pattern


  At our club field, the other guys tend to yield the air to us when flying a pattern ship. There are enough of us in the club that we contribute a lot to all aspects of club activity, so we get some consideration in return. In addition, we have unofficially designated Friday nights as "pattern night". Most of us show up, and we fly just one plane at a time. We help each other with maneuvers and judging questions. Our club has produced the Sportsman champ in D-1 4 of the past 6 years, so we must be doing something right.

  Terry T.


  On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 23:45:51 -0500 "Grow Pattern" <pattern4u at comcast.net> writes:
    I believe that a big reason why pattern has become invisible is where we fly and practice. This was gradually and subtlety caused by the rigors of the turnaround schedules!

    It is very difficult to fly at a club with regular sport flyers, and often the accompanying flight direction rules, when more than one plane is in the air.

    Turnaround makes us fly consecutive maneuvers that don't allow us to bale out if we are heading into traffic. So, we tend to fly when the folks, who used to watch us, are not there, or at a more isolated field. Then we become basically invisible and fail to inspire as we did in the past.

    Regards,

    Eric.


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: BUDDYonRC at aol.com 
      To: discussion at nsrca.org 
      Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 7:25 PM
      Subject: Re: growing pattern


      In a message dated 3/7/2005 5:33:50 PM Central Standard Time, jpavlick at idseng.com writes:
        Bob,
        Yeah, I agree. We need to improve our "exposure" if you will. Last Summer,
        I was looking for pattern contests. Nobody in my area knew where any were or
        even if people still flew pattern! I somehow missed the NSRCA booth at the
        WRAM show last February too. One of my club members happened to find a
        K-Factor somewhere and gave it to me. Here I am. Flew Sportsman last year
        with a 40 size Kaos, now I've got a Focus for Intermediate.
        As far as magazine coverage goes -you're pretty much right about that too.
        3D, parkflyers and big scale aerobatic stuff are in the spotlight now. Fear
        not. Dean has a pattern column in Flying Models. I'm working with Fly RC
        magazine. I'm sure there are a few other guys out there too. Don't forget
        about Eric in M.A. I'm reviewing some stuff now that would be great for an
        intro to pattern - 90 size ARFs (and some smaller ones too) that can fly
        Sportsman and Intermediate. I think Dean has done a few reviews along these
        lines too. If you want to see more pattern planes in the magazines, take the
        time to write to the editors. We get review airplanes based on what the
        readers want - not necessarily what we want. If there are lots of requests
        for more pattern planes, motors, etc. it will make the editors take notice.
        They always need stuff to fill up the magazine so a few pictures of your
        plane and a short note might get published in the "readers" section.
        I think you'll see things improving soon. In the meantime, try to get some
        guys in your club interested in pattern if you can. One way to get their
        attention is to point out how precision aerobatics skills can be helpful for
        3D flying. This has worked for me on at least two occasions. Ask them: "Can
        you use the rudder effectively in a hover, when you're looking at the bottom
        of the plane?" If the answer is "No" (it usually is), show them what we're
        all about. a lot of guys are afraid of the rudder. Show them how to use it
        and tell them how you learned these skills, etc. Either that, or help them
        trim one of their planes to fly correctly (OK, just do your best - sometimes
        it's almost impossible). They'll come around.

        John Pavlick
        http://www.idseng.com


        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
        > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Robert Mairs
        > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:20 PM
        > To: discussion at nsrca.org
        > Subject: Re: Making Pattern Harder - was Pattern Box Rules (discussion)
        >
        >
        > I've been monitoring the list for a couple years now, haven't
        > said a whole
        > lot, but a common theme I seem to see a lot, is talking about the
        > past.  If
        > you want pattern to grow, there's only one way your gonna do it
        > and that's
        > to start promoting it.  You don't see anything about it anywhere.  Hardly
        > any plane reviews in major magazines, no ads in magazines, about the only
        > thing going is an occasional column in ama.  If your not specifically
        > looking for it, pattern is pretty much invisible in my opinion.
        > A banner ad
        > on rcu, rcgroups drawing people to the website could be a
        > possibility.  If
        > you don't start attempting to draw in new people, diminished size is
        > inevitable.  Just look at the turnover in your local clubs.
        > Sequences, wt
        > limits, turnaround, box sizes, etc, etc, isn't gonna get pattern anywhere.
        >
        > Make it easy for somebody new, expand the beginners section on
        > the website.
        > Guys are building lower priced arfs, have them write up some
        > reviews, show
        > them they don't have to have a $3500 2m, custom painted, tricked
        > out bird.
        > Update and expand district sites makeing it easy to find a
        > contest to come
        > out to and watch with directions, starting times, saying visitors
        > welcome.
        > The only thing I think will turn around pattern is promotion
        > outside of its
        > primary membership, which doesn't really seem to take place.
        > rm
        >

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      I think These are good points we need take a hard look and see how we can each make a move in this direction I agree pattern is STEALTH now
      Buddy
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