Pattern Box Rules (discussion)

[Bob Richards]

Dean,

Pre turnaround, I liked to fly close in, whether I
scored well or not (equivalent of Intermediate and
Advanced classes). I probably flew no more than 75
meters out, and low.  Pre-turnarond, at least we had
the option to fly any distance we wanted.

That is the part I liked about pre-turnaround.
Overall, I like turnaround since it is more like
full-scale aerobatics. I even flew a scale plane in
Masters. And I still like to fly as close in as
possible. There is something beautiful about low and
slow using good throttle management. I don't
particularly miss the Buck Rodgers looking pattern
ships of the 70s and 80s with the piped .60s screaming
at 18k rpm. Well, OK, I DID kinda like the EU1A. :-)

Throttle management is something that ANY flyer could
learn. How often do you see someone learning to fly,
and their trainer is FULL THROTTLE for the entire
flight. IMHO, that is one of the biggest problems with
models and noise today, but that is getting a little
off topic....

Bob R.

--- Dean Pappas <d.pappas at kodeos.com> wrote:
> Hi Jim,
> I'm really not looking to argue with you, but that's
> not where we used to fly, back pre-Turnaround.
> Oh yeah, some of us flew close in, and there were
> regional variations (you couldn't score for beans on
> Long Island twenty five years ago if you didn't do
> your rolls over the runway at less than 50 feet) but
> by and large we flew right at 150 meters and maybe
> farther for some tall stuff. Most flew bottoms well
> over 100', and tops on some stuff often violated the
> 45 degree maneuver box a bit. Look at it another
> way, we were not flying smaller, with our 120 MPH
> planes, and the square loop with 1/2 rolls was
> supposed to stay under 45 degrees. They were flown
> far out.
>  
> Now a statement like that, I need to prove. The last
> non turnaround Team Trials was held in '83 at Rough
> River Falls Ky. There is a road parallel to the
> runway and it was measured at about 175 meters away.
> We were asked, midway through the contest, to stop
> flying over and past the road. There were businesses
> and houses there.
>  
> Early after Turnaround, the same was true, on the
> same site. Nowadays, there is still a contest there.
> OK ... who has attended that contest the last couple
> of years? Do they still have a constant problem with
> road overflight?
>  
> Turnaround really has reduced our noise footprint.
>  
> later,
> Dean
>  
>  

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