Apocalypse -- WAS RE: Pattern Box Rules (discussion)

[Ron Van Putte]

On Mar 2, 2005, at 10:01 PM, rick wallace wrote:

> Hey Mike --
> Apocalypse? Is that somebody's new pattern plane? All composite / 
> carbon /
> kevlar? When's it due out? Got any pictures?

I didn't even know Mike knew how to spell Apocalypse.

Ron Van Putte

>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hester
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:47 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Pattern Box Rules (discussion)
>
> The apocalypse could be near....I just hope it waits till after Ocala 
> =)
>
> -Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Pattern Box Rules (discussion)
>
>
>>
>> On Mar 2, 2005, at 4:28 PM, Joe Lachowski wrote:
>>
>>> The 75 degree box is just as bad as no box at all. I flew the 75
>>> degree box in a couple of IMAC contests when they used it and thought
>>> that that big of a box was a joke and presented less of a challenge.
>>> Leave the box alone. Let's bury this absurd idea right now!!
>>
>> This is getting bad.  I agreed with Bob Pastorello and Joe Lachowski 
>> on
>> the same day.
>>
>> Ron Van Putte
>>
>>>> From: vicenterc at comcast.net
>>>> Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>> To: discussion at nsrca.org, discussion at nsrca.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Pattern Box Rules (discussion)
>>>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 22:10:27 +0000
>>>>
>>>> IMAC changed to 90 degree box this year.
>>>>
>>>> Vince
>>>>
>>>> -------------- Original message --------------
>>>>
>>>> As a member of the rules change committee I am trying to determine 
>>>> if
>>>> there is interest in pursuing this matter and welcome a discussion
>>>> and suggestions regarding this issue
>>>> I have outlined some of the issues and suggestions pertaining to 
>>>> this
>>>> below and welcome your opinions.
>>>>
>>>> The pattern box was added to the AMA rules when the turnaround 
>>>> method
>>>> of
>>>> Presentation and scoring was initiated. It defines the limited
>>>> scoring area where all maneuvers must be performed.
>>>> The purpose of the box is to provide a uniform but somewhat flexible
>>>> area of presentation that allows the pilot the opportunity to tailor
>>>> his presentation to the requirements of the pattern being flown, and
>>>> allow judges to score his presentation on an equitable basis when
>>>> compared to the presentations of other pilots flying the sequence.
>>>> The rules provide for specific score penalties for performing any
>>>> maneuver either out of the box or partially out of the box, making 
>>>> it
>>>> all important that all box violations are downgraded the same by all
>>>> judges to provide the correct score earned.
>>>> Over the years the failure of judges to provide a uniform 
>>>> application
>>>> of box violations has resulted in an unfair advantage to some pilots
>>>> and a disadvantage to others.
>>>> In many cases box line poles are not or cannot be provided to give
>>>> the pilot or judge the visual reference necessary which becomes the
>>>> primary reason among others that this condition continues to exist.
>>>> In addition to the above the present box configuration increases the
>>>> possibility of a midair collision when two flight lines are used
>>>> because many pilots strive to utilize the same optimum distance out
>>>> in their presentation.
>>>> By reconfiguring the box more area will be available for those who
>>>> wish to fly in closer with out fear of box violation downgrades, 
>>>> this
>>>> will also allow those who experience vision difficulties at greater
>>>> distances the possibly to be more competitive
>>>>  In order to provide a method that will more nearly insure equity to
>>>> all participants and simplify the task of judges, while possibly
>>>> reducing the occurrences of midair collision, and also encourage
>>>> those with limited eyesight at the greater distances to participate,
>>>> It has been suggested that a rules change be requested to modify the
>>>> pattern box layout and redefine the box boundary infringement
>>>> penalty.
>>>>
>>>> One suggestion was to revise the box size by changing the box line
>>>> from Sixty (60) degrees to Seventy-five (75) degrees. And adopt a
>>>> uniform system of accessing penalties similar to the FAI rule or to
>>>> the method used in IMAC
>>>>
>>>> Another suggestion which may offer solutions to more of the inherent
>>>> problems experienced with the present box layout and scoring methods
>>>> would be to adopt
>>>> A box layout and penalty system as described in the AMA Scale
>>>> Aerobatics Rules Item 4.1 with modifications to suit pattern.
>>>>
>>>> Buddy Brammer
>>>>
>>>
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