Sportsman Option B Question

George Kennie geobet at gis.net
Wed Jun 22 09:51:45 AKDT 2005


Great explanation!

Troy A. Newman wrote:

> Dowayne and all,
>
> The reason for the repeated figures in Sportsman...IS we just don't have
> enough turnarounds in Sportsman. And we are even quite limited on center
> figures as well. Our goal is to teach skills not present figures that are
> only survival. The 1/2 reverse Cuban and in the Sportsman Option A has the 1
> roll repeated and the Immelman turn repeated. If you'll look at Sports B #15
> you will find the 1/2 Cuban 8...So if we used it in #8 it would be repeated
> also. We felt that the 1/2 reverse was better as it gave the pilot more time
> to get ready for the upcoming figure. Not that the 1/2 Cuban is bad it just
> tends to require more box management and we have that skill used also just
> not repeated.  So we wanted to use the best choice in the situation. The
> goals were to increase Sportsman flight time and build skills...but we don't
> have a ton of figures to throw at a sportsman pilot. SO repeating important
> skills and building block figures was the choice. At first look it seems
> like poor choices for repeats. The reality is the choices were made with
> great care and we tried to give different looks when the figures were
> repeated. In the 1 roll upwind vs downwind we felt that a upwind vs downwind
> roll in windy conditions is very different. Since its rare that we fly it
> true calm conditions it was decided that the upwind roll was good and so was
> the traditional downwind roll. The next situation is a up high exit of the
> box and then re-enter up high in the Option A...The idea in the this set of
> figures was that the pilot would have the 2pt roll and a 1 roll both up
> high. Less pucker factor and safer. The ideal turnaround would be a
> procedure turn 90 deg out and 270 back..this would allow for major
> correction to get back where you need to be. The original thought was to
> have flat turns like 180's or even 360 as scored figures "aerobatic turns"
> this idea was taken off the table as many felt they didn't build skills for
> high classes. By the way the current rules on takeoff procedure allow for a
> procedure turn as one of the two require options so we felt this would be a
> good place to practice it without being in a scored environment.
>
> On another note the 1/2 reverse Cuban 8 is probably the easiest figure for a
> sportsman pilot to do as a turn around. Its very safe and teaches good
> skills. The result is building blocks and repetition. Pattern and Precision
> Aerobatics is the art of mastery and perfection of the figures...not just
> can you do them.
>
> This entire list of  schedules was based on this philosophy more than any
> other. Mastery and perfection of the figures. Once you have perfected the
> figure in a given class you have the skills in both flying and
> trimming(model setup) to move onto the next class. There has been some flack
> about the Advanced proposals being too light and lack of inverted exits. The
> reality is the Advanced schedules that are proposed are close in KF to the
> current schedule. The proposals are 48 and 49 KF and the current is 50. So
> yes in terms of simple KF its a little easier. But not by much. Also the
> figures in the current advanced are very close in skill building to the
> proposals. Triangle loop with a full roll on top combines the current
> Triangle and the Double with the inverted roll. The difference is the
> inverted roll is at the top of the box and not at the bottom. A figure M in
> any schedule is a tough figure...Even in an FAI or Masters sequence. The
> Figure M is probably the most difficult maneuver to score well on because of
> the elements and the opportunity to zero it by rolling the wrong way or
> flopping a stall turn. As for other figures I think the proposals for
> Advanced are on a equal footing with the current schedule..Slow roll, 4pt,
> top hat w 1/2's, avalanche, triangle, 45 down snap (its just upright not
> inverted...by the way the 1 snap is often more difficult than a 1.5snap, and
> the 1 snap is in the current Masters), square loop, humpty options, spin,
> stall turns, bunts, 1/4roll elements  and so on.....
>
> One thing I really think speaks volumes for the proposed advanced options is
> that you are not repeating similar elements all at once. In the current you
> do a bunt, double I, Immelman as a 3 figure set. We tried to break up the
> look so the figures didn't blend together and have repetition of elements
> back to back all the time.
>
> I hope I answered the questions you guys have.
>
> Troy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dowayne Gould" <iflyrc24 at columbus.rr.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:03 AM
> Subject: Sportsman Option B Question
>
> Is maneuver #8 ½ Reverse Cuban 8 correct? There is already a ½ Reverse Cuban
> as maneuver #5. It seems that Maneuver #8 should be a ½ Cuban 8 that follows
> the 2/2pt roll.
>
> Dowayne
>
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