Manuver number 6 on P07 Schedule

[Ron Van Putte]

On Jun 19, 2005, at 11:31 AM, Nat Penton wrote:

> Ron, "adding a flight condition for the snap". Is that the same as 
> using the rate switch ?

I was actually saying less than I would've if we'd been face-to-face, 
to cut down on the narrative.  I actually use dual rate elevator for 
the spin.  I use a different flight condition for the snap.  In fact, 
when I was flying the Advantage for the past three years, I used two 
flight conditions for the two snap roll maneuvers.  The 45 degree down 
snap requires a different set of inputs from the Avalanche with a snap 
at the top.

Ron Van Putte

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
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> Subject: Re: Manuver number 6 on P07 Schedule
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>>
>> On Jun 19, 2005, at 4:39 AM, Amram Private wrote:
>>
>>> Manuver number 6 on P07 Schedule is at center of box and is say: 45
>>> degree down with 1 1/2  positive snap rolls - exit inverted.
>>> No matter how hard I try I cannot snap/stall my model on 45 degree 
>>> down
>>> line. The best I get is a fast one and a half roll with nose pitching
>>> As a result of full elevator on entry. Still the model does not 
>>> really
>>> stall.
>>
>> I had a similar problem with the snap on the 45 degree downline.  I 
>> kept trying different combinations of aileron, elevator and rudder 
>> inputs, but, either I couldn't  get a clean snap, or I buried it so 
>> deep in the snap that I couldn't stop it at the right roll angle.  In 
>> addition, there was a dramatic pitch change and I couldn't recover it 
>> on the 45 degree downline. My flying buddy, John Fuqua, kept telling 
>> me I needed more elevator input. Finally, after procrastinating a 
>> long time, I decided to give his idea a try and added a LOT of 
>> elevator.  Wow!  The airplane snapped great.  It stayed on the 
>> downline and I had much better control over the bank angle at the 
>> exit.  But, now I had too much elevator for flying the rest of the 
>> maneuvers, even with 80% exponential.  So, I added a flight condition 
>> for the snap and everything's working great.
>>
>> Ron Van Putte
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