Manuver number 6 on P07 Schedule

[Cameron Smith]

Some radios offer the ability to use "Conditions" instead of "Rate"
changes. When a Condition is selected for say a "Snap" you can change
multi-surface deflections & Expo settings. Also different throttle
curves & delays.

 I also agree with Johns  approach to snap set-up. I have found also I
decrease Rudder throw & do not throw the nose off line so hard.

 Personally I don't need massive elevator on my new Symphony but do like
to limit the rudder available in "snap Condition"
 

 The most common example of flight conditions I see in RC is in the
Helicopters. Like: Normal, Idleup1, Idleup2 & Idle Hold.

-----Original Message-----
From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
On Behalf Of Nat Penton
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 12:32 PM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: Manuver number 6 on P07 Schedule

Ron, "adding a flight condition for the snap". Is that the same as using
the 
rate switch ?     Nat

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: Manuver number 6 on P07 Schedule


>
> On Jun 19, 2005, at 4:39 AM, Amram Private wrote:
>
>> Manuver number 6 on P07 Schedule is at center of box and is say: 45
>> degree down with 1 1/2  positive snap rolls - exit inverted.
>> No matter how hard I try I cannot snap/stall my model on 45 degree
down
>> line. The best I get is a fast one and a half roll with nose pitching
>> As a result of full elevator on entry. Still the model does not
really
>> stall.
>
> I had a similar problem with the snap on the 45 degree downline.  I
kept 
> trying different combinations of aileron, elevator and rudder inputs,
but, 
> either I couldn't  get a clean snap, or I buried it so deep in the
snap 
> that I couldn't stop it at the right roll angle.  In addition, there
was a 
> dramatic pitch change and I couldn't recover it on the 45 degree
downline. 
> My flying buddy, John Fuqua, kept telling me I needed more elevator
input. 
> Finally, after procrastinating a long time, I decided to give his idea
a 
> try and added a LOT of elevator.  Wow!  The airplane snapped great.
It 
> stayed on the downline and I had much better control over the bank
angle 
> at the exit.  But, now I had too much elevator for flying the rest of
the 
> maneuvers, even with 80% exponential.  So, I added a flight condition
for 
> the snap and everything's working great.
>
> Ron Van Putte
>
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