Rule Change Proposal

[Ron Van Putte]

On Jun 11, 2005, at 10:07 AM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:

> In the upcoming rules survey there is a question there that asks 
> whether
> takeoff and landing should be scored.  Don Ramsey added it at my 
> suggestion.
> In my opinion, I believe that those 2 maneuvers do not belong in an
> aerobatic schedule.

I couldn't help but notice, at every contest I've attended this year, 
the significant amount of time that was saved with the new takeoff and 
landing rule.  Granted, the pilots' meeting had the inevitable 
questions about how to perform them under the new rules.  However, once 
common sense prevailed, everyone agreed that the object was to get the 
airplane in the air and back on the ground safely and virtually 
anything the pilot did, short of hot dogging, should earn him a 10 on 
both maneuvers.

The pilot must designate the direction of flight.  He does that with 
the takeoff.  However, after thinking about the landing and reading all 
the comments on this subject, I'm beginning to believe that the pilot 
should be allowed to land in either direction, his choice.  A rule 
change proposal to say that can be put into the new rule change cycle.  
Unfortunately, implementation would not occur until 2007.  Right now we 
have a rule that says a pilot may not land in the direction opposite to 
the takeoff direction.  If there is a wind shift and he lands in the 
opposite direction, he zeros the landing.   Rules are supposed to be 
there for a reason.  Just what is gained by this rule?  I think it 
should be changed now..

Ron Van Putte


>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On
> Behalf Of Jerry Budd
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:16 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Rule Change Proposal
>
> Why?
>
> I mean, what does the takeoff and landing direction have to do with
> anything, let alone the direction you fly the sequence?
>
> Why does it matter?
>
> (that's a rhetorical question - the answer is that it doesn't, it has 
> no
> relevance whatsoever).
>
> Ron - I like your thinking on this but it's still unnecessarily
> constraining.  I'd suggest that the takeoff and landing direction 
> should be
> purely at the pilots discretion, meaning that they can be in whatever
> direction the pilot chooses (the safety responsibility lies solely in 
> the
> pilots lap on this one), and that they have no bearing on the 
> direction of
> flight that the sequence is flown in.
> It's all up to the pilot, the judges really don't even need to be 
> involved
> in this other than to assist in letting the pilot know if the runway is
> "clear" or not.
>
> Of course the next logical extension of this is as Bob Pastorello 
> suggested
> which is to not even score the takeoffs and landings, but apparently 
> that's
> way too radical of an idea for some to openly consider.  And that's
> unfortunate.
>
> JMHO, Jerry
>
>
>> I'd support it also, as long as the direction only changes for
>> landing- the rest of the sequence must be in accordance w/ takeoff
>> direction.
>>
>> Rick Wallace
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
>>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:29 PM
>>> Subject: Rule Change Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'd like to float a rule change proposal for consideration and  >
>>> discussion.
>>>>
>>>> After recently attending a contest in which landing downwind was
>>> very  > difficult and dangerous, I thought there should be a rule
>>> change  > regarding the landing direction.  Off the top of my head,
>>> I'd say  > something like, "In case of a wind shift during the flight
>>> and to  > reduce the hazard to people and the aircraft, subject to
>>> the approval
>>>> of the judges, the landing direction is the pilot's option."
>
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