[SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Landing Direction

wgalligan wgalligan at cnbcom.net
Fri Jun 10 22:22:38 AKDT 2005


Kieth....your scarin me.....sounds too logical.

WG

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Black 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 6:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Landing Direction


  If you had a dangerous situation in Knoxville what prevented the CD from just making the decision that for that event that pilots could land into the wind regardless of take-off direction? I've been to several contests were the CD made to/landing rule declarations in the interest of safety.

  I hardly believe this is a real emergency considering that it's been the case for years now.

  I'll reiterate that I'm not coming out in opposition to the rule, but Lamar makes a good point about the survey. In the interim let CD's exercise common sense. For that matter so can pilots. If you're situation was really dangerous just take the zero and then appeal the safety aspect with the CD to try and reverse the zero.

  Common sense must prevail.

  Keith Black

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Ron Van Putte 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:22 PM
    Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Landing Direction


    It may not be an emergency at many sites, but those who attended the Knoxville contest will probably agree that it is. 

    Ron Van Putte

    On Jun 11, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Lamar Blair wrote:


      Ron, and All
       
      This is a really good question. In fact it has been added to the rules survey to find out what pattern flyers think about the idea. 
       
      The new survey will be going out to at least 1000 plus people, both  NSRCA and Non-NSRCA members.
       
      This is not an emergency that needs fixing in a hurry.
       
      I hope that you will hold off on your proposal until we get an answer back from everyone. I also hope that you will have Don Ramsey and some others look over the wording of your proposal so that we do not run into the problems that we are having with the 2005-7 Take-offs and Landing language.
       
      BTW - I support the change, but we must be careful of the wording and not have to turn around and submit another proposal to fix one that is submitted without some NSRCA process and attention.
       
      Lamar Blair
      NSRCA President
      256-353-8154
      l.blair at worldnet.att.net 

         ----- Original Message -----
        From: Ron Van Putte 
        To: discussion at nsrca.org 
        Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 8:08 AM
        Subject: Landing Direction

        Based on the positive response on the proposed change to landing direction, I sent my draft landing direction rule change proposal to John Fuqua, the Contest Board chairman, and he replied:

        "How about this.  Suggest you put this as para 6.7 which is the 'Safety Requirements" section. 

        "Normally landing would be as per paragraph 14.1 regarding Direction of Flight.  However, when a wind shift results in a downwind landing that creates a hazard to people or the aircraft, subject to the approval of the judges, the landing direction may be reversed.

        (or maybe)

        "Normally landing would be as per paragraph 14.1 regarding Direction of Flight.  However, subject to the approval of the judges, the landing direction may be reversed when a wind shift results in a downwind landing that creates a hazard to people or the aircraft."

        I prefer the second one and will make an Emergency Proposal as soon as I can put it together.

        Ron Van Putte
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