New Sequences

Thu Jun 9 05:53:26 AKDT 2005

Hi All,

I think the worst example of what  cross box maneuver can do to a pattern 
is in this current masters pattern.  It completely bucks the stated trend 
and desire of having pilots flying on a closer line to the pilot.  If the 
pilot is learning the craft, wind correcting, and able to fly over the 
poles, the cross box maneuver with out the option to leave it on the line, 
just takes you out of the box.  If you are flying even close to the poles, 
the automatic decision is take the cross box maneuver out (issue is beat 
to death I'm sure). 

In the P05 pattern, there is only 1 cross box maneuver and it has options 
to leave it on the line (unless you consider a "spin" a cross box maneuver 
during a cross wind, in which case the P05 pattern has two).  At this 
point, I haven't found the need to practice this option to take it in or 
out because all the other elements flow together to leave it over the 
poles.  Speed management, wings level, and heading control all lead to the 
pilot being able to keep the plane where they want it, easier.

Thanks,
Jim W.

"Bill Pritchett" <phelps15 at comcast.net> 
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Verne:
Thanks.  One of the keys to this is "with options"...... We really could 
use 
some creativity on turnarounds that give the pilot the option of moving 
their line in/out or staying the same......  Right now there simply aren't 

enough.
We are really looking forward to this weekend - if Kane's buying, most of 
D4 
will be trashed.......   Since D5 is always trashed, it should be great 
fun!
Bill

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Verne Koester" <verne at twmi.rr.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: New Sequences

> Bill,
> I've been pretty much in the thick of the crossbox discussions. There 
are 
> only two points I've been trying to get through. The first is that a 
> "forced" or no options crossbox maneuver should never precede a rolling 
> maneuver. The reason is that if a pilot is anywhere near the ideal 
> distance of 150 meters out, the only logical option is to go out to 
avoid 
> making the box too small for the upcoming roll. This in turn, forces the 

> pilot to be further out than desired. I'd never even thought about it 
> before tackling the current Masters schedule.
>
> The second point is that it would be nice if we could conjure up some 
new 
> turnaround maneuvers with options so the pilot would have the option of 
> preserving the line he was on or making adjustments.
>
> I absolutely agree that crossbox maneuvers are a necessity. Ideally, 
they 
> should occur twice during a schedule. The first one being about 1/4 to 
1/3 
> of the way into the schedule with the second one being 3/4 to 2/3 of the 

> way through. In addition, they should immediately follow a snap 
maneuver, 
> if there is one (or two) since a snap usually involves some degree of 
> line displacement.
>
> When one considers all the parameters involved in designing a good 
> schedule, or set of schedules, it becomes quickly apparent that saying 
> "great job" isn't nearly enough for you and your team. Having said all 
> that,  GREAT JOB!!!!!!!
>
> See ya this weekend,
> Verne
>
> BTW, Kane's buyin, he needs exhaust washers.....
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Pritchett" <phelps15 at comcast.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:03 PM
> Subject: New Sequences
>
>
>> Rodney:
>> Both proposed Advanced schedules are "easier" than the current Advanced 

>> schedule.  This was one of the criteria that we worked with, based upon 

>> overwhelming opinion that the jump to Advanced is currently too much. I 

>> like both schedules (not because I'm on the committee...hehe), but what 

>> this WILL do is make the jump to Masters much bigger for the guys that 
>> will come through these schedules.  I am sort of a victim of having 
made 
>> the current jump, and now that I've made it, felt that I could 
>> objectively help others coming up in seasons to come not deal with some 

>> of the issues current Advanced flyers have had to handle.  Our current 
>> schedule calls for 10 maneuvers prior to a cross box turnaround. 
>> Although there is discussion on the list right now about being on that 
>> "line", and a cross box being a bother, let's face it, most Advanced 
>> flyers need to adjust in/out earlier than 10 maneuvers in.  Lots of 
>> thought and discussion went into these, and I'm sure that everyone on 
the 
>> committee hopes that the NSRCA membership takes a deep collective 
breath 
>> before making any judgments.  One thing we all tried to do is make it 
>> more even in jumps between classes, up to Masters.  We all seemed to 
>> agree that Masters should be the "big" jump, and a jump that provides a 

>> class of "Destination" for some, and FAI prep for others.  I hope that 
>> you, and others, will look at the proposed Advanced schedule as a part 
of 
>> the whole, and not a direct comparison to the present.
>> Thanks
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> Bill Pritchett
>> 765-744-9322
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