new patterns

George Kennie geobet at gis.net
Tue Jun 7 09:55:23 AKDT 2005


Thanks Troy,
Very clearly stated. Straightened out the golf- ball for me!
Georgie

Troy A. Newman wrote:

> List et al,
>
> The reality of this is the work that was done was submitted to the President
> of the NSRCA. Before I was ready to release documents to the general public,
> I was waiting for an approval by the Board. Not that there is anything
> hidden about it. Just that the Board commissioned the committee and it
> reports back to the Board. I have not heard any comments from the Board.
> Once the Board said OK it looks like you fulfilled the charter that you were
> given.....then I was going to release the documents on the Internet. It is
> my firm belief that the Board will be as pleased with the results as I. If
> there were serious issues I would not have submitted the results regardless
> of the Deadline. The old idea of the cook not showing the cake until he
> verifies the kids name is spelled correctly applies here. The Cake is on its
> way the work is complete. I don't want to post something and then have it
> change in 2-3 days. This adds confusion to the situation. These are NSRCA
> proposals and as such the NSRCA Board of Directors should know what is being
> done before its released to the hungry crowd. This is a formality that was
> agreed upon before work was begun. June 1st was the deadline So its been
> just a few days since it was sent out to the VPs from Lamar. Lance I
> appreciate your comments as a member of the Board.
>
> For all of you that don't know. The new sequences will be presented in both
> the traditional words as we have used in Pattern and also Aresti as a
> graphical shorthand. IMAC uses this graphical shorthand exclusively. Our
> section of the hobby is a little different, in the way things are done. The
> words and the Aresti in FAI carry equal weight. A main reason for this is
> language barriers. The Aresti is more difficult to read sometimes, but once
> you send a little time with it begins to make a huge amount of sense. We in
> the F3A class flying unknowns use the Aresti to tell us the general
> shapes...what is this thing suppose to resemble? It works well. We as a
> committee felt that Aresti was a good thing to introduce to AMA pattern. So
> I have the program and am currently getting all the Aresti documents done.
> This is in addition to the traditional descriptions that we have had
> forever. So its like getting Peas and Carrots. Both serve a purpose and will
> help define the figures they represent.
>
> To quickly answer a couple questions. FAI current has the golf ball and the
> reverse golf ball in its catalog. It is basically a vertical gold fish or
> Half of a Cuban 8 that is vertical. The 45's cross with the roll elements
> and the loop is 3/4 of a circle. A Golf Ball has the loop at the top. So the
> model pulls or pushes to a 45 upline performs the required roll element on
> center  if there is a roll. Then Loops 270degs to the downline 45 and
> performs the required roll element on center.The rolls cross at center like
> a Cuban 8.  So if you were to draw a Cuban 8 with only one of the loops but
> both 45's...then turn it to the loop side up it looks like a golf ball
> sitting on a  tee. A Reverse Golf ball as in the proposed Masters for the
> Survey is this same figure but from the top and the loop portion is on the
> bottom. IMAC and the current FAI patterns have a gold fish in them. The golf
> ball is a vertical gold fish.
>
> Spring Coil. Basically this a variation on a figure 9....models performs
> 1-1/2 loops at the top of a vertical upline. The figure in question has the
> pilots option for inside or outside 1-1/2loop. Basically a figure 9 but
> instead of 270degs of loop its 540degs. This is 540degs of a circle to come
> back down on a vertical. So its a figure 9 style maneuver that starts and
> ends at base altitude.
>
> Descriptors for new things are following however there are not many new
> figures.
>
> I know these have been flown a bunch. Both the guys in the groups that
> developed each set flew them and I as well as others flew them too.
>
> There are no secrets and everything will be posted and available to all. I
> have been fighting a computer that locks up everytime I open
> word-excel-Explorer-visio. Luckily Email works. I hope Dell will have the
> solution on Friday of this coming week when the new box arrives. Amazing how
> Win98 is not really supported and you get told if your machine is 5yrs old
> its a piece of crap and throw it away. When my new machine gets going I will
> get a finished set of documents to answer your questions. Aresti and English
> explanations will help clarify the problems.
>
> Lastly I want to thank the guys on the Teams that created the sequences. You
> will have all their names and credit will be handed out to the guys that did
> the grunt work. I only gathered the info and combined it. A few changes were
> made on individual figures to meet KF goals or improve the flow....but the
> meat and potatoes work that has been done is the ideas and goals of about
> 15-20 people. I think you all will be as proud of the outcome as I am.
>
> So thanks for the Hard Work from you guys on the Team!
>
> Troy Newman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cameron Smith" <dentdoc007 at adelphia.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:11 AM
> Subject: RE: new patterns
>
> > Lamar has them.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> > On Behalf Of Jim Ivey
> > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 1:32 PM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: new patterns
> >
> >  Hey
> > Where can I find the new proposed patterns?Guess I am overlooking them.
> >
> > Jim Ivey
> >
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