Sequence comments

[Grow Pattern]

Terry,
           Dave Lockhart gave some great advice about practice flying the class above to sharpen you up in your current schedule.

Once you do it you will soon be up here faking it with the rest of us. You can even fly FAI as long as it doesn't have an "F" in front of it. (VBG)

Eric.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Terry Terrenoire 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:53 PM
  Subject: Re: Sequence comments


  I am having trouble finishing in the middle of the pack in Adv, certaily not ready for Masters, and do not feel that the new schedule will help that situation. I MAY be able to finish a little better, but it will not give me confidence in moving to Masters!

  Terry T.


  On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:25:22 -0400 "Bill Pritchett" <phelps15 at comcast.net> writes:
    Terry:
    You aren't stuck with anything.  Move up to Masters. 
    Bill
    (Advanced Sequence Committee Member)
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Terry Terrenoire 
      To: discussion at nsrca.org 
      Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 6:08 AM
      Subject: Re: Sequence comments


      Get real, Jerry: you know as well as I do that "this is a done deal"! Look at the flack over TO and Ldg scores. The general membership has virtually NO say in what goes on. Surveys be damned. And with some members of the Sequence team justifying the lack of difficulty by pointing out that "some of the maneuvers have inverted segments in them". We havn't got a chance! We ARE going to be stuck with a severely dumbed down sequence for the next 3 years!!

      Terry T.


      On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:31:45 -0500 "Jerry Stebbins" <JAStebbins at worldnet.att.net> writes:
        Kieth, not necessarily. If a bunch of folks have valid concerns, it makes no sense to not listen to them. If you are concerned enough to feel that way, get a bunch of people to fly them and see if they come to the same position, and let your DVP's know NOW. TheDVP's can suggest changes in response to valid, properly supported issues, that a bunch of pilots test and agree need to be fixed.  It still could be fixed, but only with faith that the Sequence Teams understand the issues people have, and then they can do their best to fix them before it goes to AMA. 
        The Sequence Teams have done a great job based on where they were trying to get to. If the majority think something needs fixen, and they can convince their DVP, it could be done. 
        Jerry
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          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Keith Black 
          To: discussion at nsrca.org 
          Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:58 PM
          Subject: Re: Nats Judging Rebate-keep their best SCORE!


          Interesting you bring this up. I've spoken to first year intermediate pilots that plan to move to Advanced next year even though they really would be better off flying another year in Intermediate. Their reason is that they want a year of practice with the current Advanced sequence with the inverted exits and pushes to prepare for Masters and feel the 2007 advanced sequences are too easy. 

          As I stated before, I've flown both of the proposed Advanced sequences and I thought they were terrific patterns that flow very well, however, they are easier than the current pattern. I think these excellent patterns could be easily fixed to include inverted maneuvers and still take advantage of the majority of the work. However, at this point I think that's water under the bridge. 

          Keith Black

          ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Terry Terrenoire 
            To: discussion at nsrca.org 
            Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:27 PM
            Subject: Re: Nats Judging Rebate-keep their best SCORE!


            This IS published in advance, and all pilots know it, so there is no problem, at least there was not in the 7 years I was involved. We certainly do not need more rules!!!! Especially a national rule that pertains to just one, 4 day event a year!

            While on the subject of rules changes. A while ago I commented on the "dumbing down" of the Advance pattern, and had just one or two comments. How many of you Advance fliers think that it is prudent to go from 4 inverted maneuvers to NONE. How is that possibly going to prepare you for the difficulty of Masters??? Have any of you even looked at the proposal? How many of you have flown the 2 proposed schedules?

             Sure would like to hear some comments from other Advance and Masters pilots, pro or con!!

            Terry T.


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