Sequence comments

[Terry Terrenoire]

I am having trouble finishing in the middle of the pack in Adv, certaily
not ready for Masters, and do not feel that the new schedule will help
that situation. I MAY be able to finish a little better, but it will not
give me confidence in moving to Masters!

Terry T.


On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:25:22 -0400 "Bill Pritchett"
<phelps15 at comcast.net> writes:
Terry:
You aren't stuck with anything.  Move up to Masters. 
Bill
(Advanced Sequence Committee Member)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Terry Terrenoire 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: Sequence comments


Get real, Jerry: you know as well as I do that "this is a done deal"!
Look at the flack over TO and Ldg scores. The general membership has
virtually NO say in what goes on. Surveys be damned. And with some
members of the Sequence team justifying the lack of difficulty by
pointing out that "some of the maneuvers have inverted segments in them".
We havn't got a chance! We ARE going to be stuck with a severely dumbed
down sequence for the next 3 years!!

Terry T.


On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:31:45 -0500 "Jerry Stebbins"
<JAStebbins at worldnet.att.net> writes:
Kieth, not necessarily. If a bunch of folks have valid concerns, it makes
no sense to not listen to them. If you are concerned enough to feel that
way, get a bunch of people to fly them and see if they come to the same
position, and let your DVP's know NOW. TheDVP's can suggest changes in
response to valid, properly supported issues, that a bunch of pilots test
and agree need to be fixed.  It still could be fixed, but only with faith
that the Sequence Teams understand the issues people have, and then they
can do their best to fix them before it goes to AMA. 
The Sequence Teams have done a great job based on where they were trying
to get to. If the majority think something needs fixen, and they can
convince their DVP, it could be done. 
Jerry
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Keith Black 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: Nats Judging Rebate-keep their best SCORE!


Interesting you bring this up. I've spoken to first year intermediate
pilots that plan to move to Advanced next year even though they really
would be better off flying another year in Intermediate. Their reason is
that they want a year of practice with the current Advanced sequence with
the inverted exits and pushes to prepare for Masters and feel the 2007
advanced sequences are too easy. 

As I stated before, I've flown both of the proposed Advanced sequences
and I thought they were terrific patterns that flow very well, however,
they are easier than the current pattern. I think these excellent
patterns could be easily fixed to include inverted maneuvers and still
take advantage of the majority of the work. However, at this point I
think that's water under the bridge. 

Keith Black

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Terry Terrenoire 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: Nats Judging Rebate-keep their best SCORE!


This IS published in advance, and all pilots know it, so there is no
problem, at least there was not in the 7 years I was involved. We
certainly do not need more rules!!!! Especially a national rule that
pertains to just one, 4 day event a year!

While on the subject of rules changes. A while ago I commented on the
"dumbing down" of the Advance pattern, and had just one or two comments.
How many of you Advance fliers think that it is prudent to go from 4
inverted maneuvers to NONE. How is that possibly going to prepare you for
the difficulty of Masters??? Have any of you even looked at the proposal?
How many of you have flown the 2 proposed schedules?

 Sure would like to hear some comments from other Advance and Masters
pilots, pro or con!!

Terry T.
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