Nats Judging Rebate

Thu Jul 28 08:58:08 AKDT 2005

I think that was the plan, it just managed to slip by the team. Then again, 
it could have been checked to see what was left Sunday evening. Stuff 
happens, if that was our big flaw, I think the overall experience was pretty 
good.

I don't plan on sharing where I screwed up!

John Ferrell
http://DixieNC.US

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marty King" <mking46516 at yahoo.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Nats Judging Rebate

>I have watched this topic and I see so many comments
> about picking up packets, Sunday's meeting and
> role-calls. The Monday morning issue, as I understood
> it, were judges who did not have to fly till the
> afternoon not showing up first thing on Monday morning
> to judge.
>
> The CD did know about 5 no shows on Sunday and made
> the necessary changes. There is no way for a CD to
> plan for judges who are registered, packets picked up
> and simply sleep in or go practice in the morning and
> skip their assignment. The first day is always the
> hardest.
>
> On the packets, my feeling is that if the packets are
> to be available at NATS headquarters prior to Sundays
> pilot meeting there should be a sign out sheet so we
> know who picked up their packets and that only the
> pilot may pick his own packet up.
>
> Marty
>
> --- John Ferrell <johnferrell at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> The problem of judging no-shows is in the CD's
>> domain. Only he can really address it. It escapes me
>> how a contestant can get to the line without getting
>> the contestant package. No contestant ID = no fly!
>>
>> Although it appears that contest management could
>> reassign no-show slots on Sunday night, it does not
>> create an unreasonable delay on Monday morning.
>> Things are pretty hectic from Sunday afternoon until
>> mid morning on Monday. Much of the time contestants
>> are delayed by travel problems or by personal/family
>> problems. Why further add to their woes? There will
>> always be a few last minute problems to be resolved.
>>
>> The Nats are a very big deal to a lot of people.
>> Dreams are both fulfilled and shattered. Most
>> contestants are in a high adrenaline state. While
>> failing to fulfill a judging assignment is an
>> inconvenience to contest management, it is time of
>> crisis for the contestants whose expectations have
>> been shattered.
>>
>> As a Line Director I get to observe the stress and
>> strain that many experience. I feel for them and
>> share their emotions, both positive and negative.
>> The contestant that is unable to face his peers
>> after a disaster day deserves our sympathy more than
>> our criticism.
>>
>> BTW, the guys that step up and fill those extra
>> judging slots are the heroes of the day.
>>
>> John Ferrell
>> http://DixieNC.US
>>
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: Rick Wallace
>>   To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>   Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 4:36 PM
>>   Subject: Re: Nats Judging Rebate
>>
>>
>>   I don't like the idea of a mandatory $50 judging
>> performance bond for our National contest...
>>
>>   Don't see how to mitigate further against a guy
>> forgetting a judging assignment, especially given
>> the great info packets that we received - it was all
>> there. Five minutes finding your name on the sheets
>> and marking them up and you knew where and when to
>> be there!
>>
>>   Given a mandatory sign in at the Farm House on
>> arrival in Muncie, and a mandatory pilot's meeting
>> Sunday night, it's hard to see how a no-show should
>> have been a surprise on Monday morning. Seems there
>> were lots of opportunities to count noses before
>> Monday dawn...
>>
>>   Maybe a getting a list of those who didn't sign in
>> before pilot's meeting//  and during the meeting
>> ID'ing those pilots who didn't go by the farm house
>> (can't be many - call their names at the pilot
>> meeting to see if they're there?) , and confirm
>> Monday's judging assignments (either by calling
>> names and getting responses or by a posted list with
>> a place for the assigned judge to initial...?)
>>
>>   And... this way, while the pilot meeting is still
>> going on, there's max opportunity to ID a
>> replacement judge.
>>
>>   My $0.02...
>>   Rick Wallace
>>   AMA L727
>>   NSRCA 2972
>>
>>   >----- Original Message -----
>>   >From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
>>   >Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:33 am
>>   >Subject: Nats Judging Rebate
>>   >
>>   > > Last week at the Nats, I had a talk with Nats
>> event director, Dave
>>   > > Guerin about judging no-shows.  On the very
>> first morning, Dave
>>   > > had at
>>   > > least three no-shows (F3A pilots who were
>> supposed to judge the
>>   > > Master
>>   > > class).  You can imagine the frustration of
>> trying to reschedule
>>   > > pilots
>>   > > to cover for them, not to mention the delay in
>> getting the events
>>   > > started.  This was not an isolated case.  It
>> happened over and
>>   > > over
>>   > > during the week.  Some just forgot when they
>> were supposed to
>>   > > judge.
>>   > > There were even some who were scheduled to
>> judge on the third day,
>>   > > who
>>   > > decided to leave after two days and didn't
>> tell anyone.
>>   > >
>>   > > We discussed having a "$50 judging rebate".
>> It would work like
>>   > > this:
>>   > > In addition to the normal entry fees, $50
>> would be collected.  If
>>   > > a
>>   > > pilot showed up to perform his scheduled
>> judging session, he'd get
>>   > > a
>>   > > $50 rebate.  If a pilot didn't show up to
>> perform his scheduled
>>   > > judging
>>   > > session, the replacement judge would get the
>> $50.  BTW, the normal
>>   > > stipend for pilots who perform extra judging
>> sessions is $30.
>>   > > Comments?
>>   > >
>>   > > Ron Van Putte
>>   > >
>>   > >
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