Nats Judging Rebate

Grow Pattern pattern4u at comcast.net
Thu Jul 28 08:50:28 AKDT 2005 

We did use a process of deduction. If the packet was still there in the AMA 
HQ we figured you had not picked it up. there was a box for each class.

Eric.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marty King" <mking46516 at yahoo.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Nats Judging Rebate


>I have watched this topic and I see so many comments
> about picking up packets, Sunday's meeting and
> role-calls. The Monday morning issue, as I understood
> it, were judges who did not have to fly till the
> afternoon not showing up first thing on Monday morning
> to judge.
>
> The CD did know about 5 no shows on Sunday and made
> the necessary changes. There is no way for a CD to
> plan for judges who are registered, packets picked up
> and simply sleep in or go practice in the morning and
> skip their assignment. The first day is always the
> hardest.
>
> On the packets, my feeling is that if the packets are
> to be available at NATS headquarters prior to Sundays
> pilot meeting there should be a sign out sheet so we
> know who picked up their packets and that only the
> pilot may pick his own packet up.
>
> Marty
>
> --- John Ferrell <johnferrell at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> The problem of judging no-shows is in the CD's
>> domain. Only he can really address it. It escapes me
>> how a contestant can get to the line without getting
>> the contestant package. No contestant ID = no fly!
>>
>> Although it appears that contest management could
>> reassign no-show slots on Sunday night, it does not
>> create an unreasonable delay on Monday morning.
>> Things are pretty hectic from Sunday afternoon until
>> mid morning on Monday. Much of the time contestants
>> are delayed by travel problems or by personal/family
>> problems. Why further add to their woes? There will
>> always be a few last minute problems to be resolved.
>>
>> The Nats are a very big deal to a lot of people.
>> Dreams are both fulfilled and shattered. Most
>> contestants are in a high adrenaline state. While
>> failing to fulfill a judging assignment is an
>> inconvenience to contest management, it is time of
>> crisis for the contestants whose expectations have
>> been shattered.
>>
>> As a Line Director I get to observe the stress and
>> strain that many experience. I feel for them and
>> share their emotions, both positive and negative.
>> The contestant that is unable to face his peers
>> after a disaster day deserves our sympathy more than
>> our criticism.
>>
>> BTW, the guys that step up and fill those extra
>> judging slots are the heroes of the day.
>>
>> John Ferrell
>> http://DixieNC.US
>>
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: Rick Wallace
>>   To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>   Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 4:36 PM
>>   Subject: Re: Nats Judging Rebate
>>
>>
>>   I don't like the idea of a mandatory $50 judging
>> performance bond for our National contest...
>>
>>   Don't see how to mitigate further against a guy
>> forgetting a judging assignment, especially given
>> the great info packets that we received - it was all
>> there. Five minutes finding your name on the sheets
>> and marking them up and you knew where and when to
>> be there!
>>
>>   Given a mandatory sign in at the Farm House on
>> arrival in Muncie, and a mandatory pilot's meeting
>> Sunday night, it's hard to see how a no-show should
>> have been a surprise on Monday morning. Seems there
>> were lots of opportunities to count noses before
>> Monday dawn...
>>
>>   Maybe a getting a list of those who didn't sign in
>> before pilot's meeting//  and during the meeting
>> ID'ing those pilots who didn't go by the farm house
>> (can't be many - call their names at the pilot
>> meeting to see if they're there?) , and confirm
>> Monday's judging assignments (either by calling
>> names and getting responses or by a posted list with
>> a place for the assigned judge to initial...?)
>>
>>   And... this way, while the pilot meeting is still
>> going on, there's max opportunity to ID a
>> replacement judge.
>>
>>   My $0.02...
>>   Rick Wallace
>>   AMA L727
>>   NSRCA 2972
>>
>>   >----- Original Message -----
>>   >From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
>>   >Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:33 am
>>   >Subject: Nats Judging Rebate
>>   >
>>   > > Last week at the Nats, I had a talk with Nats
>> event director, Dave
>>   > > Guerin about judging no-shows.  On the very
>> first morning, Dave
>>   > > had at
>>   > > least three no-shows (F3A pilots who were
>> supposed to judge the
>>   > > Master
>>   > > class).  You can imagine the frustration of
>> trying to reschedule
>>   > > pilots
>>   > > to cover for them, not to mention the delay in
>> getting the events
>>   > > started.  This was not an isolated case.  It
>> happened over and
>>   > > over
>>   > > during the week.  Some just forgot when they
>> were supposed to
>>   > > judge.
>>   > > There were even some who were scheduled to
>> judge on the third day,
>>   > > who
>>   > > decided to leave after two days and didn't
>> tell anyone.
>>   > >
>>   > > We discussed having a "$50 judging rebate".
>> It would work like
>>   > > this:
>>   > > In addition to the normal entry fees, $50
>> would be collected.  If
>>   > > a
>>   > > pilot showed up to perform his scheduled
>> judging session, he'd get
>>   > > a
>>   > > $50 rebate.  If a pilot didn't show up to
>> perform his scheduled
>>   > > judging
>>   > > session, the replacement judge would get the
>> $50.  BTW, the normal
>>   > > stipend for pilots who perform extra judging
>> sessions is $30.
>>   > > Comments?
>>   > >
>>   > > Ron Van Putte
>>   > >
>>   > >
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