Nats Judging Rebate-keep their best SCORE!

[Wayne Galligan]

Terry,

I have to completely agree with you an this one.   I was just having a conversation with another adv. flyer and he voiced concern of the diamond 8 that he would have to do a complete roll on the down line and push to the back side of the figure 8.   As it is in adv. the 45 down neg snap prepares you for that very scenario.   Same being inverted going into the top hat.   It gives you the feel of the push into the next maneuver.
What is going to happen when the adv. flyers have to go to an inverted 1/4,/1/2,1/4  point roll?    Some of them have a hard enough time doing the inverted roll properly (yours truly included)at the bottom of the double immelman.

I say add more inverted exits or maneuvers.

Wayne Galligan
ADV  D6

 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Terry Terrenoire 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:27 PM
  Subject: Re: Nats Judging Rebate-keep their best SCORE!


  This IS published in advance, and all pilots know it, so there is no problem, at least there was not in the 7 years I was involved. We certainly do not need more rules!!!! Especially a national rule that pertains to just one, 4 day event a year!

  While on the subject of rules changes. A while ago I commented on the "dumbing down" of the Advance pattern, and had just one or two comments. How many of you Advance fliers think that it is prudent to go from 4 inverted maneuvers to NONE. How is that possibly going to prepare you for the difficulty of Masters??? Have any of you even looked at the proposal? How many of you have flown the 2 proposed schedules?

   Sure would like to hear some comments from other Advance and Masters pilots, pro or con!!

  Terry T.

  On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:05:57 -0500 "Bob Pastorello" <rcaerobob at cox.net> writes:
    As a "non Nats" guy at the present - a thought - since a Rules cycle submittal is pending, I think that ANY considerations about "penalties" for not judging had BETTER BE BUILT INTO AMA rules.
    The AMA Sanctions a national event, and I would bet dollars to donuts that a subsequent protest for zeroed rounds would WIN - due to the fact that there is NO AMA provision in the rules to cover the situations you all are describing.

    I'm not taking sides, nor pointing fingers/blame.

    Simply suggesting that NOW is the time to try and get a rule change to support the propositions of "enforcement".  Could be important.

    Bob Pastorello
    www.rcaerobats.net
    rcaerobob at cox.net
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Ron Van Putte 
      To: discussion at nsrca.org 
      Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:14 AM
      Subject: Re: Nats Judging Rebate-keep their best SCORE!



      On Jul 27, 2005, at 9:48 AM, Gray E Fowler wrote:


        Money does not matter, scores do. In the past, was it not work or lose your best round? THAT keeps people on their toes. 


      That's done now.


        I also heard that  some people coming to FAI and Masters did not submit TWO frequencies, creating matrix hassles. Same here- assign the matrix to make sense and if the person does not have his alternate frequency as was requested on the NATS entry form then he simply does not fly that round. The CD needs relief, and the contestants need the MOST fair matrix that can be had.


      No argument here.

      Ron Van Putte



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        Last week at the Nats, I had a talk with Nats event director, Dave 
        Guerin about judging no-shows.  On the very first morning, Dave had at
        least three no-shows (F3A pilots who were supposed to judge the Master 
        class).  You can imagine the frustration of trying to reschedule pilots 
        to cover for them, not to mention the delay in getting the events 
        started.  This was not an isolated case.  It happened over and over 
        during the week.  Some just forgot when they were supposed to judge.  
        There were even some who were scheduled to judge on the third day, who 
        decided to leave after two days and didn't tell anyone.

        We discussed having a "$50 judging rebate".  It would work like this:  
        In addition to the normal entry fees, $50 would be collected.  If a 
        pilot showed up to perform his scheduled judging session, he'd get a 
        $50 rebate.  If a pilot didn't show up to perform his scheduled judging 
        session, the replacement judge would get the $50.  BTW, the normal 
        stipend for pilots who perform extra judging sessions is $30.  
        Comments?

        Ron Van Putte

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