"Building a Pattern Airplane" book

Wed Jan 19 19:44:43 AKST 2005

Uh, well I guess you guys are onto my evil plans . . . foiled again!!!

Keith L. Hoard
Cordova, TN
khoard at midsouth.rr.com

-----Original Message-----
From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On
Behalf Of Terry Brox
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 9:32 PM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: RE: "Building a Pattern Airplane" book

I hereby accept your offer, as long as I get to keep it like they do when 
doing a review in the magazines. ;-))
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: RE: "Building a Pattern Airplane" book

> See keith your trying to be nice and they are taking advantage already. 
> I'm not telling anybody I'm building a pattern plane.
> hehe
>
> Jim Ivey
>>
>> From: "Keith Hoard" <khoard at midsouth.rr.com>
>> Date: 2005/01/19 Wed PM 10:08:34 EST
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Subject: RE: "Building a Pattern Airplane" book
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> I'm just volunteering to be helpful to the pattern community!!!
>>
>>
>> Keith L. Hoard
>> Cordova, TN
>> khoard at midsouth.rr.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] 
>> On
>> Behalf Of spbyrum
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 9:04 PM
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> Subject: RE: "Building a Pattern Airplane" book
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> Am I the only one who pick up that you're volunteering to allow these
>> guys to professionally build your plane for free????
>>
>> Steve Byrum
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
>> On Behalf Of Keith Hoard
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:30 PM
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> Subject: RE: "Building a Pattern Airplane" book
>>
>> I have a pattern kit and all the pieces in my garage ready to go. . . In
>> case these guys need an airplane to use as a "demonstration" model. . .
>>
>>
>>
>> Keith L. Hoard
>> Cordova, TN
>> khoard at midsouth.rr.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of S & A North
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:27 PM
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> Subject: Re: "Building a Pattern Airplane" book
>>
>> I agree too  excellent stuff,put it in print!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bill Glaze" <billglaze at triad.rr.com>
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: "Building a Pattern Airplane" book
>>
>>
>> > While I would buy a copy of Thompson/Atwoods  book in any format, we
>> may
>> > now have a new, complementary  source for this valuable information;
>> > I'm speaking, of course, of the new consortium, known as the
>> > Brammer/Brox Brain Trust.
>> > Sure would be a blockbuster combination.  Maybe we could shame
>> them<BG>
>> > into compiling their ideas and transforming them into print.  Any
>> > seconds out there?
>> >
>> > Bill Glaze
>> >
>> > Del Rykert wrote:
>> >
>> > > Does anyone know what happened with this or what the status of it
>> is?
>> > > With us wanting to address new pattern fliers I found the book very
>> > > worthwhile.
>> > >
>> > >                             del
>> > >               NSRCA - 473
>> > >
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:26 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: "Building a Pattern Airplane" book
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Don,
>> > >> Understand.  I have had some experience turning documents into
>> PDFs,
>> > >> so if I can be of help, let me know.
>> > >>
>> > >> I also understand the distribution control problem with electronic
>> > >> media and copyright concerns.  Almost any printed document can be
>> > >> turned into a PDF nowdays with just a cheap scanner and
>> > >> shareware/freeware software if no electronic copy exists and
>> someone
>> > >> is so inclined.
>> > >>
>> > >> Assuming the docuemnt exists in some electronic format, many people
>> > >> are going to "print on demand books", just printing a copy on a
>> cheap
>> > >> laser printer and using relatively cheap plastic binders.  This way
>> > >> you beat high printing costs and minimum quantities.  The trick is
>> to
>> > >> balance the value to you so you get paid for all your work, and
>> still
>> > >> make it inexpensive enough that it is not worth someone's time to
>> go
>> > >> around your copyright.  Frankly though, a PDF is invaluable to some
>> > >> of us since we can have it with us on a laptop, and print out
>> > >> sections if we need them for a project.
>> > >>
>> > >> Again, if I can be of help, let me know.  I'm still interested in
>> > >> buying someone's extra copy if they have it, or even just borrowing
>> a
>> > >> copy to read.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jon Lowe
>> > >>
>> > >> In a message dated 1/7/2004 10:36:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>> > >> AtwoodDon writes:
>> > >>
>> > >>> In a message dated 1/7/2004 4:31:03 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>> > >>> drykert at rochester.rr.com writes:
>> > >>> Jon..
>> > >>>
>> > >>>     There had been a comment about getting publishers permission
>> to
>> > >>> put it
>> > >>> up on the NSRCA web site. I don't know if that went any further
>> than
>> > >>> that
>> > >>> though.. A comment?..
>> > >>>     It was a great help for pilots entering pattern. Many have
>> sworn
>> > >>> by it
>> > >>> usefulness especially for those of us in the pockets with little
>> or no
>> > >>> activity. It saved my bacon a few times.
>> > >>> I am working with Bruce Thompson to see if we can adapt this to an
>> > >>> Adobe PDF format for distribution.  Please be patient, we had
>> > >>> basically shelved the publication, all copies gone, and are now
>> > >>> working thru the considerations of what will be required to
>> control
>> > >>> the distribution electronically.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Best bet for the interim is borrow a copy from a friend until we
>> > >>> reach a decision as to how to manage the electronic
>> > >>> distribution issues.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thanks for your patience.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Don Atwood
>> > >>
>> > >>
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