Primer for PPG Concept

[tony at radiosouthrc.com]

Terry:

I have now also spoken with a couple of modelers who have used it, and say that it is not worth the savings.  It takes more coats of paint due to the lessened amount of pigment, and not all colors are available.  This is also due to the pigments used.  My suppliers says that very bright, true colors are very difficult to match in Omni.  


Tony Stillman
Radio South
3702 N. Pace Blvd.
Pensacola, FL 32505
1-800-962-7802
www.radiosouthrc.com
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Terry Terrenoire 
  To: tony at radiosouthrc.com 
  Cc: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 6:24 PM
  Subject: Re: Primer for PPG Concept


  Tony: I have talked to my local supplier about the Omni line. He felt that it would be more than adequate for our needs. Keep in mind that these paints are intended for automobiles that may be outside 365 days a year, driven in snow and rain, endure direct sunlight for days at a time, repeated washings and waxings, and they will still hold up. I hope none of us put our planes thru that! yes, he said it does not have quite the shine of Concept, and MAY not last as long, but keep the above in mind.

  Terry T.


  On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:29:05 -0600 <tony at radiosouthrc.com> writes:
    Matt:

    I have looked over the OMNI.  It is a cheaper version of PPG, however, it has reduced gloss and the pigments used will fade over time.  (This info is from the distributor) So, I am a little scared to try it.  The price is MUCH BETTER, however!  

    If someone has used OMNI on a model that is 2-3 years old, I would sure like to hear from them!  If OMNI will hold up for that long, I think it would be a great alternative!

    Tony Stillman
    Radio South
    3702 N. Pace Blvd.
    Pensacola, FL 32505
    1-800-962-7802
    www.radiosouthrc.com
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com 
      To: discussion at nsrca.org 
      Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 7:27 PM
      Subject: Re: Primer for PPG Concept


      One more thing Bob, I've found that OMNI fast urethane enamel catalyst (another PPG product line) cures the K36 superbly. Have used it over the past year and half with excellent results. It is used sparingly something like 4 parts paint to 1 part catalyst, and cures hard enough to sand in about 3 hours at 70 degrees. The OMNI thinner works extremely well also. These are inexpensive alternatives to Concept thinner and catalyst.

      While I am at it, let me give another plug to the OMNI line. If you have access to a decent automotive paint supplier, the OMNI paints work very well in out application and are about 1/4 to 1/5 the cost of concept depending on color. The shop near me mixes every color I need to match anything. The only problem is the minimum amount--1 pint min quantity (at about $10-$14 depending on regular or metallic, so its not bad). Fast catalyst comes in half pint quantity and costs around $12, and a gallon of medium reducer costs around $22. Still working off the original purchase so catalyst shelf life has proven to be very good, even in humid NEFla.

      Hopefully Tony can carry this line also and supply it in smaller quantity possibly? 

      MattK

       In a message dated 1/17/2005 8:00:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, Rcmaster199 at aol.com writes:
        Correct, same stuff. Mixes very well and sprays great, and isn't terribly heavy. I usually add some more talcum powder (Johnson Baby Powder without starch) in mine and thin a little more. Even easier filling, sanding and feathering

        MattK

        In a message dated 1/17/2005 7:13:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, bd4 at inter-linc.net writes:
          Matt,

          Is the K36 material you referred to a PPG product.  Sorry, but I'm back in a time warp now that my K&B is running out, so I'm starting from scratch.  Is this the primer that Tony Stillman sells for the concept system.

          Again TIA,

          Bob Miller
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com 
            To: discussion at nsrca.org 
            Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 5:54 PM
            Subject: Re: Primer for PPG Concept


            Bob, do you mean other than the K36 material? Catalysed K36 cures quickly and sands well and is about as fuel resistant as regular Concept or OMNI.

            I am experimenting with KlassKote epoxy primer (like the old reliable K&B) but nothing to report yet.

            MattK

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