Primer for PPG Concept

Terry Terrenoire amad2terry at juno.com
Tue Jan 18 15:29:54 AKST 2005


Tony: I have talked to my local supplier about the Omni line. He felt
that it would be more than adequate for our needs. Keep in mind that
these paints are intended for automobiles that may be outside 365 days a
year, driven in snow and rain, endure direct sunlight for days at a time,
repeated washings and waxings, and they will still hold up. I hope none
of us put our planes thru that! yes, he said it does not have quite the
shine of Concept, and MAY not last as long, but keep the above in mind.

Terry T.


On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:29:05 -0600 <tony at radiosouthrc.com> writes:
Matt:

I have looked over the OMNI.  It is a cheaper version of PPG, however, it
has reduced gloss and the pigments used will fade over time.  (This info
is from the distributor) So, I am a little scared to try it.  The price
is MUCH BETTER, however!  

If someone has used OMNI on a model that is 2-3 years old, I would sure
like to hear from them!  If OMNI will hold up for that long, I think it
would be a great alternative!

Tony Stillman
Radio South
3702 N. Pace Blvd.
Pensacola, FL 32505
1-800-962-7802
www.radiosouthrc.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: Primer for PPG Concept


One more thing Bob, I've found that OMNI fast urethane enamel catalyst
(another PPG product line) cures the K36 superbly. Have used it over the
past year and half with excellent results. It is used sparingly something
like 4 parts paint to 1 part catalyst, and cures hard enough to sand in
about 3 hours at 70 degrees. The OMNI thinner works extremely well also.
These are inexpensive alternatives to Concept thinner and catalyst.

While I am at it, let me give another plug to the OMNI line. If you have
access to a decent automotive paint supplier, the OMNI paints work very
well in out application and are about 1/4 to 1/5 the cost of concept
depending on color. The shop near me mixes every color I need to match
anything. The only problem is the minimum amount--1 pint min quantity (at
about $10-$14 depending on regular or metallic, so its not bad). Fast
catalyst comes in half pint quantity and costs around $12, and a gallon
of medium reducer costs around $22. Still working off the original
purchase so catalyst shelf life has proven to be very good, even in humid
NEFla.

Hopefully Tony can carry this line also and supply it in smaller quantity
possibly? 

MattK

 In a message dated 1/17/2005 8:00:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Rcmaster199 at aol.com writes:
Correct, same stuff. Mixes very well and sprays great, and isn't terribly
heavy. I usually add some more talcum powder (Johnson Baby Powder without
starch) in mine and thin a little more. Even easier filling, sanding and
feathering

MattK

In a message dated 1/17/2005 7:13:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
bd4 at inter-linc.net writes:
Matt,

Is the K36 material you referred to a PPG product.  Sorry, but I'm back
in a time warp now that my K&B is running out, so I'm starting from
scratch.  Is this the primer that Tony Stillman sells for the concept
system.

Again TIA,

Bob Miller
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: Primer for PPG Concept


Bob, do you mean other than the K36 material? Catalysed K36 cures quickly
and sands well and is about as fuel resistant as regular Concept or OMNI.

I am experimenting with KlassKote epoxy primer (like the old reliable
K&B) but nothing to report yet.

MattK
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