Class Structure - 400S

[Del Rykert]

Great input Jeff.. For the times I have had excuse thrown at me abt box 
being to much for them and not willing to try.. Not saying their is a pat 
answer but in your mind being fresh from that spot what would you suggest to 
entice someone to try? I used comparison if they can land on runway then 
they can control airplane and the box but with no joy.

    Thanks
         Del
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Hughes" <jeffghughes at comcast.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: Class Structure - 400S


> All you old guys look at the turnaround manuevers as a big deal because 
> you went through the change from turnaround to non-turnaround. The new 
> people really don't know any better and the turnaround part of the pattern 
> is no more intimidating than any other part of the pattern. I came in post 
> turnaround and flew in my first contest in Plainfield, IN. I live in the 
> middle of Indiana and there was nobody at my field flying pattern. The guy 
> that ran the contest (who's name escapes at the moment) got somebody to 
> coach the Novice pattern with me before my first flight and talk me 
> through it. Without him, I probably would of quit in the middle of the 
> contest and went home. It's really the intimidation factor of preparing, 
> flying in front of judges, looking stupid in front of people who are 
> obviously better pilots than yourself. This is what I remember about 
> Novice, not the specific manuevers.
>
> Plus don't sell some of the new guys short. I taught a guy this year who 
> was around 55 who soloed in three flights. Equipment is better than ever, 
> they buy arfs so there is no emotional attachment and they fly simulators 
> so they can be way up the learning curve before they get the first flight 
> in.  I don't think the difficulty of the sportsman class is the real 
> issue, it's getting people involved and helping them.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Grow Pattern" <pattern4u at comcast.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Class Structure - 400S
>
>
>> It may well be that we need a similar routine for the older flyers who 
>> now find turnarounds to be too far away? (No tease or insult intended.) 
>> I'm just being realistic and live close to there right now.
>>
>> The class would have NO progression or pointing-out exit rules. Enter if 
>> you want. Call it 400S. S=sport=fun etc...
>>
>> For the record I have always liked the idea of a non-turnaround 
>> starter/primer.fun-acrobatics schedule.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tom Simes" <nsrca at shinymetalass.com>
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: Class Structure
>>
>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:09:04 -0500
>>> "Del Rykert" <drykert at localnet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Verne.
>>>>     I am only 1 vote but you would have my support as many I have
>>>>     tried to get to consider giving pattern a try were intimidated by
>>>>     the box and keeping a group of maneuvers in it. Without a coach
>>>>     was to over whelming for them.
>>>>
>>>>                              del
>>>
>>> Rather than formally creating a new division or simplifying the
>>> sportsman sequence, how about addressing the issue locally as needed
>>> with something like a "newbie hour" prior to starting the contest?
>>>
>>> It seems to me that instead of a single cause such as turn around
>>> maneuvers, or flying within the box itself, there are likely a wide
>>> variety of fairly minor barriers which keep pilots from making the leap
>>> from being interested to being participants.  This list is ample
>>> evidence of both our desire to grow the sport and help each other.
>>> While everyone is getting unpacked and set up, how about formally
>>> setting aside an hour to help newbies one on one nail that maneuver that
>>> eludes them, get their plane trimmed, get their engine running right, or
>>> just give them 5 minutes on a buddy box flying a well set up pattern
>>> plane with an experienced pilot.  In short, take an hour and do what you
>>> can to push someone over the interested hump and into participant mode.
>>>
>>> Some folks fall naturally into the mentoring mode and would volunteer
>>> for the duty, but if that fails maybe the mentoring could be part of
>>> first round judging duties.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Tom
>>>
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