Schedule design - Your homework assignment should you chose to accept it.

[Ed Alt]

Ed:
The Scale Aerobatics rules don't even use box boundaries anymore. There used to be a 150 degree box, but that was eliminated as part of a set of changes that someone theorized would help make the footprint smaller.  It's not even worth going into all the related changes and "logic" behind them, it just goes in a big circle and never makes any sense.  Anyway, turnaround is alot easier when it doesn't matter where you decide to place figures.  There is no longer any objective criteria to guide you about where to place figures since they got rid of the centering scoring.  All that you really have to do now in Scale Aerobatics is to fly them in the correct order.

The Basic class for Scale Aerobatics does really well here in the Northeast too.  However, you hardly ever see anyone ever make it to Unlimited or stay there very long and there are only a small handful of guys that achieve in Advanced.  The new Intermediate class does well, but it seems to be the falling off point for alot of guys.  What you tend to see in the IMAC ranks is alot of guys that want to zoom to the top, that really don't learn a heck of a lot about the basics and they never can succeed beyond the lower and mid-level classes.  

I think that there is just alot of appeal to the big gas stuff for a lot of guys.  The airplanes are impressive looking, they can do all that fun fliffle-flaffle 3D stuff with ease and in general, you can just toss them around easily if you feel like it.  It's fun, but alot of guys spend way more time hanging it on the prop than doing any real practicing.  What I saw in Scale Aerobatics competition was only a small core group that were real serious competitors and a lot of transients with alot of money to spend to try it out.  I had to get out of it because the direction that the rules were taking seemed absurd to me.  Alot of the new guys don't seem to mind much how the rules are structured, because it's not necessarily about precision aerobatics for alot of them.  It's really a very different event with a different mindset for the people that are shaping it's direction.  It's meant to follow whatever the IAC does, which isn't necessarily a good thing if you are flying models.  

Ed

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ed Deaver 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 3:54 AM
  Subject: Re: Schedule design - Your homework assignment should you chose to accept it.


  Hey Guys.  I have only flown Turnaround, and never flew the beginning level.  I have a question, but this is not antagonistic, really am curious about opinions.

  Other than the box being much bigger(and this may be the key to the answer), IMAC flies with turnaround in Basic.  I see results to IMAC contests with up to 15-20 Basic pilots.  MY question would be, if turnaround is so difficult to learn, why is Basic in IMAC flourishing(at some contests, especially this past year, in my region, Tx?)

  Again, not arguing, just curious on opinions.

  Thanx
  ed

  Verne Koester <verne at twmi.rr.com> wrote:
    Eric,
    The main maneuvers in 401 & 402 were purposely left the same. The main 
    lesson in 402 is turnaround which is more than plenty for most. The pilot 
    gets to bring everything learned in Sportsman with him. In fact, while 
    competing in 401, one could be practicing for 402 without changing much. 
    That's the beauty of the design. For me, and many pilots I've discussed this 
    with agree, the hardest things learned flying pattern with number one being 
    the hardest are as follows:

    1. Flying turnaround

    2. Slow Roll

    3. 4 Point Roll

    4. Any Roll that changes direction such as Reverse Knife Edge

    Of those I've talked to, some had a harder time learning the 4 point and 
    some the slow roll so 2 & 3 are interchangeable. However, the transition to 
    turnaround is undoubtedly the toughest of all which is why everything else 
    going from Sportsman to Intermediate was left the same.

    Verne


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Grow Pattern" 
    To: 
    Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:36 PM
    Subject: Re: Schedule design - Your homework assignment should you chose to 
    accept it.


    > Thank you Verne,
    >
    > Ref. Eric, "Here yaw go. I doubt something this radical would ever be 
    > accepted, but at
    > least it will serve to underline some of the concepts I was discussing and
    > defending recently on the List"
    >
    > Verne,
    > It's actually not that radical and you get bonus points for 
    > doing three of them :-)
    >
    > Now, if you feel so inclined the, next part of the task would be to match 
    > the maneuvers. What we did/do is take each maneuver and trace how trains 
    > the pilot for the next level up. Then sometimes you tweak the maneuver.
    >
    > For example, in your work below I would match the double stall turns and 
    > do the following;
    > 401 - Double Stall Turn
    > 402 - Double Stall Turn
    > 403 - Double Stall Turn w/Half Rolls
    > 404 etc.
    >
    > What leaps out at me is the 402 could be tweaked to have 1/4 rolls and 
    > then you would have a pretty darn good ladder to climb with no rungs 
    > missing.
    >
    > 401 - Double Stall Turn
    > 402 - Double Stall Turn w/Quarter Rolls
    > 403 - Double Stall Turn w/Half Rolls
    >
    > What do you think?
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Eric.
    >
    > P.S. Even though this is an exercise it does allow you to show how 
    > interested you might be in getting involved in our future.
    >
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