Judge Feedback - Winning... Knowledge or Talent?

[John Pavlick]

Right on Rick. I understand the issues involved with judges providing
feedback but I too think it should be a little bit more lenient as far as
Sportsman goes. It's great if you can get someone from Advanced or Masters
to call for you (thanks Ed) but this isn't always possible. Sportsman is the
learning class and it's good to get feedback after a flight. It helped me a
lot. I expect it to be different this year in Intermediate but that's Ok
too. By the way, I can fly a lot slower now... Thanks guys.
John Pavlick (AKA Captain Ballistic)
http://www.idseng.com




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Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Judge Feedback - Winning... Knowledge or Talent?


  Hmmm…

  Sportsman as a learning class – how’s that for a paradigm (whatever THAT
is…) – and I think judge / coaching’s much more acceptable there than in the
higher classes.

  When I flew Sportsman not too long ago, I routinely asked judges for
feedback immediately after I landed – sometimes they’d give it – sometimes
not. Sometimes the two judges had differing opinions, which was always a
treat.



  Now, when I’m in the chair, I use a system similar to Lance’s to note my
perceptions of the flight I’m judging – in the margins of the scoresheet.
Might help trigger the victim / pilot to ask me about them, and will
certainly help me remember why I gave that score, if asked.



  The pattern community just isn’t that big, and the guys in this year’s
sportsman class will be right beside us in Masters / FAI in a few years if
they stay with it. We’re not just scoring their flights, we’re welcoming
them into the community. If we do it right, we’ll be flying with these guys
for a long time. – I believe it’s possible to be fair and impartial in the
chair and still provide an item or two of immediate post-flight feedback to
the pilot. My informal ground rules for this:

  -          Talk to the pilot AFTER score sheet’s finished and put away or
turned in. The pilot doesn’t get to look over a judge’s shoulder at his
score sheet ever.

  -          Ensure that the other judge is OK w/ making comments – defer to
him if he’s a more senior guy.

  -          Never push comments on the pilot – if he indicates he’s
interested, point out one or two things,

  -          Make comments in a positive manner (“You might try holding a
notch of throttle at the top of the stall turn, and hitting the rudder a tad
earlier.”)

  -          Don’t allow the short dialog to slow the pace of the
contest—the next pilot up has priority once he’s been cleared to start his
engine.

  -          When asked I’m willing to

  o        either coach the pilot by watching others’ flights (preferably in
another class) and discussing techniques (OUT of earshot of anyone else, esp
the flight line)

  o        meet w/ the pilot after the round for a detailed discussion of
perceptions of his flight- the debrief marks are already on his score sheet.



  Just my $.02 –



  Rick




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