Weight limit discussion

[Nat Penton]

Well said Bob. The magic is in the fingers. Not the airframe.      Nat
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Richards" <bob at toprudder.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Weight limit discussion


> Mark,
> 
> I agree. I have been out of pattern for about 8 years,
> but attended a recent contest as a spectator. What
> impressed me were some of the ARFs (Focus) that come
> covered, cheaper than the Finesse I bought RTC back in
> '94. The engines are cheaper (larger two strokes) and
> overall it is far easier/cheaper to get into pattern
> with a decent setup. 
> 
> Of course, the top dawgs will always be flying tricked
> out setups that cost big bucks, and there will be
> others that feel the ONLY way to be competitive is by
> using the same equipment as the top dawgs. That will
> always be the case, regardless of what the rules are.
> It is up to the rest of us to demonstrate that the
> expensive equipment is not needed to be competitive.
> 
> IMHO, changing the rules now is like a dog chasing its
> tail.
> 
> Thanks for the rant!
> 
> Bob R.
> 
> --- Mark Hunt <flyintexan at houston.rr.com> wrote:
> 
>> It seems to me (my perception only) that we are
>> witnessing an age of pattern that actually seems
>> very accessible by a new pattern flyer.  Never have
>> I seen so many quality (and cheap) ARF's available
>> that are really capable flyers for 401, 402, and
>> 403...perhaps 404 as well...heck, Chuck showed all
>> how it's done here in Dist. 6 with an inexpensive
>> 120size ARF and an OS 4stroke!
>> 
>> I think that at the local contest level, weight is
>> not, and should not be, a big issue in the lower
>> classes.  Once you're up to the 404 dancefloor it's
>> time to play by the rules...all of them.  At the
>> NAT's level, the rules will be, and should be,
>> enforced through all classes.
>> 
>> I was still a kid when the YS came out with a 120,
>> but I do remember my dad was trying to stay with all
>> the big spenders in the Northeast of the US with his
>> Tiger Tails, Blue Angels, etc., so I do remember
>> somewhat that the motors were the limiting $$$
>> factor....hence, a good motor was very expensive
>> (comparatively)..think of the first time you saw the
>> price of a YS120.  Now weight is the real limiting
>> factor....so a big, light airframe is $$$$ and motor
>> options are much more plentiful.  Pushing the
>> limiting factor, whatever it may be at the time,
>> will cost money.  I feel that battery technology
>> will (and already has) overcome it's own weight
>> issues.  It seems that the only power options we are
>> lacking right now are a 32oz. Gas motor and perhaps
>> fuel cells???  As strange as it sounds, I feel that
>> we are nearing a nice growth spurt in pattern simply
>> due to the low costs now to get involved in the
>> lower classes.
>> 
>> sorry for the rant,
>> Mark
>> 
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