Weight limit discussion

[Bill Glaze]

Following fads in racing. (or pattern.)  Yes, indeed.  We used to call 
it "the trick of the month club."  Bill Glaze

Bob Pastorello wrote:

> Mark - I'm surprised you would actually ask that.  Most of us that 
> have been around for awhile know absolutely that the game is a game of 
> "followership", where masses of people spend tons of money to 
> duplicate the "hot setups" of the big dogs in their own personal quest 
> for glory.
>  
> Perhaps limiting the equipment that the big dogs can use will help get 
> things back into control?
>
> Bob Pastorello
> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
> rcaerobob at cox.net <mailto:rcaerobob at cox.net>
> www.rcaerobats.net <http://www.rcaerobats.net>
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>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Atwood, Mark <mailto:atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
>     To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>     Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:16 AM
>     Subject: RE: Weight limit discussion
>
>     So Buddy...I HAVE to ask again... If the "Average" competitor that
>     you're referring to ISN"T following in Chip's/Jason's/Sean's (and
>     of course our beloved Dave L's) footsteps...then why aren't they
>     flying any of the competitive, well under 11lbs airframes that
>     exist today???   USA Star's, El Nino's, Desires, Arch Nem, SL-1,
>     and on and on. 
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>     Dave's argument is simply that the ONLY reason people are
>     struggling with 11lbs...is because they're trying to build the
>     same giant body ships that the top guys fly.  That will STILL be
>     the case..except if you give them another lb to work with...those
>     top guys will just build that much bigger of a ship that people
>     will still want...and still can't build to make weight.
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>     So my question is simply...why aren't people flying the lighter
>     designed 2M airframes?
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>     -Mark
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>     From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>     [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of BUDDYonRC at aol.com
>     Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:01 AM
>     To: discussion at nsrca.org
>     Subject: Weight limit discussion
>
>      
>
>     Dave
>
>     In answer to the following parts of your post (had to split it up
>     to big for the list to handle)
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>     Raise the weight limit in pattern, and the 2x2m monoplane will get
>     bigger and more costly (and the most competitive examples will
>     still probably be under 11 lbs, but the "average" plane won't be).
>
>     So far this is my point exactly. If we are to make AMA pattern an
>     inclusive event we in my opinion must include the average
>     competitor. Those who have higher aspirations will do what they
>     must to achieve perfection and a weight rule change will have
>     little effect on those who aspire to compete on a higher level.
>
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>         Raise the weight limit in pattern while leaving unlimited
>         displacement and the 2x2m box, and the 2x2m monoplane will no
>         longer be the most competive design - the most competitive
>         design will be a purpose designed pattern bipe that will be
>         substantially more expensive (money, time, maintenance) than
>         the current day designs.
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>         If you don't think a purpose design pattern bipe would be the
>         best, ask Chip.  He will tell you without reservation he would
>         not have flown his Double Visions in the past few years if he
>         did not think it was the best plane.
>
>         Yes, but you also need to consider the level of competition
>         and his goals. Lets face it Chip is playing to the world in an
>         arena composed of professionals making him a member of an
>         exclusive group that for the most part excludes the rank and
>         file of pattern. Here again I believe AMA pattern should be
>         structured to attract all of the rank and file while affording
>         those who aspire to greatness the opportunity to compete on a
>         higher level without effecting or excluding those who make up
>         the core of the pattern community or those who interested in
>         joining it
>
>     Buddy
>
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