FAI Weight Thread

[Jim Ivey]

Ken
 By necessity the planes will have to get bigger or they will fly like Eric says(jello on a plate). I liked that one.

Jim Ivey
> 
> From: "Ken Thompson III" <mrandmrst at comcast.net>
> Date: 2005/02/23 Wed PM 06:14:37 EST
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Subject: Re: RE: FAI Weight Thread
> 
> Jim,
> The size wouldn't change, just the weight limit.  You can only go so heavy 
> with a 2x2 airframe before the wing loading gets so high the plane flies 
> like crap.  That will be the controlling factor, wing load.
> 
> Ken
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: FAI Weight Thread
> 
> 
> > Guys
> > So you raise it to 5.5 or even 12 lbs,where will it end. In 2 years 
> > someone will want 14 lbs so they can run their gas engine,then we can go 
> > unlimited and be like IMAC where the sky is the limit with weight. Then we 
> > move the box out another 50 yards and make it unlimited width to 
> > accomodate the bigger planes.
> > I think leave well enough alone.
> >
> > Jim Ivey
> >>
> >> From: "Dean Pappas" <d.pappas at kodeos.com>
> >> Date: 2005/02/23 Wed PM 05:12:55 EST
> >> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> >> Subject: RE: FAI Weight Thread
> >>
> >> Hi Ed,
> >> OK, so you agree.  5.5 Kg should be fine, no?
> >>
> >>
> >> Dean Pappas
> >> Sr. Design Engineer
> >> Kodeos Communications
> >> 111 Corporate Blvd.
> >> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
> >> (908) 222-7817 phone
> >> (908) 222-2392 fax
> >> d.pappas at kodeos.com
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
> >> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ed Miller
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:39 PM
> >> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >> Subject: Re: FAI Weight Thread
> >>
> >>
> >> 5Kg including fuel for glow planes will eliminate 2 of the 3 pattern 
> >> ships now I have, including my newest 2M ship as I doubt I can fly the 
> >> Master's schedule on 7 ounces of fuel. Should it happen I guess I'll just 
> >> sport fly my planes and another NSRCA member and pattern flyer will be 
> >> lost. I suspect over 90% of existing glow ships would now be technically 
> >> illegal. If we keep screwing with rules that outdate or make planes 
> >> overnight illegal, pattern will be a very, very small crowd in a very 
> >> short time. I certainly don't care for the thought that my substantial $$ 
> >> and time investment could be wiped out by a rule that accomplishes what 
> >> ???
> >> Ed M.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: Dean  <mailto:d.pappas at kodeos.com> Pappas
> >> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:27 AM
> >> Subject: RE: FAI Weight Thread
> >>
> >> Hi Bob,
> >> Generally, the desireability of a quieter event is recognized. E-power 
> >> suffers from a definition problem: we weigh without fuel, but with 
> >> batteries. A change to "ready for takeoff" will even the playing field 
> >> ... maybe even tilt it E-ward. Do you kake the present day ships pass a 5 
> >> Kg standard with fuel, or do you give everyone an additonal 1/2 Kg for 
> >> fuel and or battery.
> >>
> >> While my druthers would be to make everyone meet 5Kg wet/batteried, I 
> >> suspect that there would be resistance to making existing legal airplanes 
> >> suddenly illegal. That's where 5.5 Kg might come from. A total removal of 
> >> the weight limit is exceedingly unlikely. Has anyone spoken to Chris 
> >> Lakin or Ron Chidgey, lately?
> >>
> >> Regards to All,
> >>         Dean
> >>
> >>
> >> Dean Pappas
> >> Sr. Design Engineer
> >> Kodeos Communications
> >> 111 Corporate Blvd.
> >> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
> >> (908) 222-7817 phone
> >> (908) 222-2392 fax
> >> d.pappas at kodeos.com
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
> >> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bob Pastorello
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:07 PM
> >> To: NSRCA
> >> Subject: FAI Weight Thread
> >>
> >>
> >> Over on RCU - apparently some Europeans are under the impression that the 
> >> FAI will consider a proposal to either remove the weight limit, or 
> >> significantly raise it.
> >>
> >> Anybody know what's up with that?
> >>
> >>
> >> Bob Pastorello
> >> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
> >> rcaerobob at cox.net
> >> www.rcaerobats.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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