[SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180
Bill Glaze
billglaze at triad.rr.com
Thu Feb 17 10:03:16 AKST 2005
Eric:
Agreed. I've seen some great results with the Moki twin, if you can
keep the rear cylinder cooled. You apparently managed this. I can
remember the first Giant Scale Air Race at Modesto, Calif. where Bill
Hempel flew his Dad's B-26 (as I remember) bomber in the race with twin
3.60 Moki's Billy ran off and hid from the field; he was just plain
superior to the others. So............they changed the rules for next
year. Hmmmmmmm..............sounds familiar to me! ;-)
Bill Glaze
Grow Pattern wrote:
> I had a Midwest with a Moki 1.8 but wasn't enough power, so I add
> another 1.8.
>
> The MOKI 3.6 Twin was awesome.....if a little heavy. Vertical was
> pure. Roll rate was maintained until out-a-sight going up...I remember
> having a hard time starting the twin. I recall building monster
> starters, 24 volts and all that stuff. Then one day I forgot my 2nd
> ni-starter and tried to start it on one cylinder. Dead easy!, Then I
> just lit the second cylinder with the one ni-starter.... The pistons
> were fighting each other as the fired alternately.
>
> Still needed the tank right up against the wall
>
> I'd love YS to bring out a 280 opposed twin, like their earlier
> experiments..still dreaming of sunny weather as well..
>
> In NJ and cold... Eric.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Bill Glaze <mailto:billglaze at triad.rr.com>
> To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:42 PM
> Subject: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180
>
> Bob:
> I just don't understand why all this pump/regulator/muffler
> blocking stuff is necessary. I've got 3 Mokis and none of them
> need special treatment. Bisson muffler, muffler pressure only,
> (no check valve, nothing but fuel tubing) and a Mesjlik 18-10
> prop, and the thing will go up our of sight. Ask John Ferrell; he
> was standing alongside me when I said: "John, hold my beer and
> watch this! (Well, actually, you can disregard the beer! That's
> just Southern talk.<G>) One of my conversations with Garrard
> included a mention of pumps, etc. and he stated to me that "they
> shouldn't be needed." In my case, and experience with 3 different
> engines, (all of which I still own) that has proven to be the
> case. One of the most reliable brands I have ever owned. And
> they all pull like tractors.
>
> Bill Glaze
>
> Bob Kane wrote:
>
>>All this talk of regulators, pumps, sticky O-rings,
>>rusty bearings . . . . . I don't know how you guys put
>>up with those two-strokes . . . . I'm glad I have my
>>YS's . . . . . . ;)
>>
>>
>>--- Ed Alt <ed_alt at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi John:
>>>Have you ever tried starting the Moki with a light
>>>backwards bump? The
>>>engine likes to be wet to do this, but it usually
>>>would start foward for me
>>>when I did this. I just gave the spinner a brisk
>>>twist to clockwise and
>>>that would do it.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "John Ferrell" <johnferrell at earthlink.net>
>>>>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>>To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>>>Subject: Re: Moki 180
>>>>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:53:29 -0500
>>>>
>>>>I have a MOKI 1.8 in a Midwest Cap (80" span, 14
>>>>
>>>>
>>>pounds). I installed a
>>>
>>>
>>>>Perry pump that uses crankcase pressure. Where the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>tank is located makes no
>>>
>>>
>>>>difference. I am running Red Max all Synthetic fuel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>with 5-7.5% nitro. I
>>>
>>>
>>>>have proven to my satisfaction that Dick Hanson's
>>>>
>>>>
>>>advice that no Pitt's
>>>
>>>
>>>>style muffler provides adequate fuel pressure.
>>>>
>>>>The only strange behaviour that I experience is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>that the first start of the
>>>
>>>
>>>>day takes a little effort and it wants to run
>>>>
>>>>
>>>backwards for a while. I have
>>>
>>>
>>>>noticed others with the same problem without the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>pump. No big deal, I can
>>>
>>>
>>>>live with that. The needle NEVER needs adjusting.
>>>>
>>>>I usually use a MAs 18-10 prop because it survives
>>>>
>>>>
>>>ground to prop strikes
>>>
>>>
>>>>better than anything else and I seem to have a few
>>>>
>>>>
>>>of them. I don't know if
>>>
>>>
>>>>APC even makes this size any more, but the two
>>>>
>>>>
>>>piece with hub version was
>>>
>>>
>>>>expensive to fly.
>>>>
>>>>I don't fly it much because it just don't fly like
>>>>
>>>>
>>>a pattern ship!
>>>
>>>
>>>>John Ferrell
>>>>http://DixieNC.US
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Ron Van Putte
>>>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:14 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Moki 180
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 16, 2005, at 8:53 AM, Rcmaster199 at aol.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> To be honest, if weight wasn't an issue, I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>would use the MOKI 180. I
>>>
>>>
>>>>have not used an engine more user friendly or more
>>>>
>>>>
>>>robust than that one,
>>>
>>>
>>>>and has power to burn. Piped, propped and mounted
>>>>
>>>>
>>>correctly, it could be
>>>
>>>
>>>>made fairly quiet. It was nice to just fuel it,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>prime it, one flip start
>>>
>>>
>>>>it, and have it last several seasons without any
>>>>
>>>>
>>>hint of a problem. No
>>>
>>>
>>>>bearings, no rods, no rings, or anything else for
>>>>
>>>>
>>>that matter.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have virtually no experience with MOKI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>engines, other than to sell
>>>
>>>
>>>>fuel to owners and listen to complaints from the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>ones who aren't convinced
>>>
>>>
>>>>that MOKIs want/need low % nitro fuel to operate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>properly. Does anyone care
>>>
>>>
>>>>to comment which fuel works best in their MOKI?
>>>>
>>>> Ron Van Putte
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>=====
>>Bob Kane
>>getterflash at yahoo.com
>>
>>
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