[SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180

Ed Alt ed_alt at hotmail.com
Wed Feb 16 17:44:20 AKST 2005


Yep, the Cline's work quite well on the Moki.  A good way to go.

Ed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Grow Pattern" <pattern4u at comcast.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:28 PM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180


> Jim,
>         I don't know if the carb will like the Cline regulator so I didn't 
> state that as a solution. I don't have my Moki any more so I can't back 
> that idea up with a test.
>
> Regards,
>
> Eric.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:00 AM
> Subject: [SPAM] Re: Re: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180
>
>
>> Eric
>> I bet that if you put a cline regulator system on the Moki, you could put 
>> the tank on the CG,and it would have a bigger window adjustment to the 
>> needle.
>> This is the only way I made my Webra run...Cline.
>>
>> Jim Ivey
>>>
>>> From: "Grow Pattern" <pattern4u at comcast.net>
>>> Date: 2005/02/16 Wed AM 10:50:31 EST
>>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180
>>>
>>> The Moki has a fuel draw issue. The tank has to be right up close behind 
>>> the engine. Would need a fuel feed system. For pattern use it is heavy 
>>> and needs a big mount. No idea what muffler/pipe would work on it 
>>> either???
>>>
>>> E.
>>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>   From: Bill Glaze
>>>   To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>   Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:45 AM
>>>   Subject: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180
>>>
>>>
>>>   Ron:
>>>   I've been quite happy with mine; they have always started very easily 
>>> and run well.  I've heard all these stories about pumping/regulating 
>>> them etc. but I honestly don't know why one would need to do so, other 
>>> than a defective setup in the first place.  I just run muffler pressure.
>>>   Now, fuel:
>>>   I experimented with some 15% that I run in my Y.S.engines.  As the 
>>> Moki neared full throttle, I could plainly hear it rattling.  (with my 
>>> hearing, that in itself is a minor miracle.)  So, I drained the 15% and 
>>> put in some 5% that I happened to have.  Ran well, but after it heated 
>>> up, I could detect some detonation.  So, I drained out the 5% and put in 
>>> some FAI that I had been using.  Not only did the detonation cease, but 
>>> I picked up some 400 rpm.  I was curious, so I called Gerrard, 
>>> (importer, at that time.)  Jim said that I wasn't dreaming; the engine 
>>> was designed for FAI fuel, and that they absolutely would recommend no 
>>> more than 5% fuel, and that to be used only in the winter to help 
>>> starting.  I don't remember numbers, but I do remember that it will idle 
>>> for 5 minutes at 1800 rpm, and then immediately accelerate to full 
>>> throttle when asked. That's Jim Gerrard's criterion.  I'm not sure my 
>>> Y.S. engines will do that.  Since I've gotten so heavily into pattern, I 
>>> have done very little with anything else.  So, the information is 
>>> probably a year old.  The Moki's are in (Individually, of course<G>) a 
>>> Midwest Extra 300 which weighs 14 lb. 4 ozs.  and I use a Mesjlik 20-10 
>>> prop.  This is the only airplane I have ever owned that will truly go 
>>> out of sight straight up, (John Ferrell was a witness on this!) and will 
>>> do a true, round knife-edge loop.  And, with the recommended Bisson 
>>> muffler, I get quite a few comments about how quiet the airplane is.  It 
>>> sounds mellow, but I've never Db'd it.  Fun to own and fly?  You bet! 
>>> :-)
>>>   HTH
>>>   Bill Glaze
>>>
>>>   Ron Van Putte wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Feb 16, 2005, at 8:53 AM, Rcmaster199 at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       To be honest, if weight wasn't an issue, I would use the MOKI 180. 
>>> I have not used an engine more user friendly or more robust than that 
>>> one, and has power to burn. Piped, propped and mounted correctly, it 
>>> could be made fairly quiet. It was nice to just fuel it, prime it, one 
>>> flip start it, and have it last several seasons without any hint of a 
>>> problem. No bearings, no rods, no rings, or anything else for that 
>>> matter.
>>>
>>>
>>>     I have virtually no experience with MOKI engines, other than to sell 
>>> fuel to owners and listen to complaints from the ones who aren't 
>>> convinced that MOKIs want/need low % nitro fuel to operate properly. 
>>> Does anyone care to comment which fuel works best in their MOKI?
>>>
>>>     Ron Van Putte
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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