*SPAM* Re: Rules Survey

Wayne Galligan wgalligan at goodsonacura.com
Wed Feb 9 04:28:55 AKST 2005


Nat,

Your right... look at the last three years at the Nats and what took top
honors in the masters class.....an ARF that cost less then $600.

WG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nat Penton" <natpenton at centurytel.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: *SPAM* Re: Rules Survey


> Some of you are over estimating the importance of the airplane and
> underestimating the potential of the pilot.                   Nat
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Southwell" <bnbsouthwell at bellsouth.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:56 PM
> Subject: Re: *SPAM* Re: Rules Survey
>
>
> > Tom how so?  If there are available engines that actually hold up but
are
> > a bit more porky....but also a lot cheaper to own both in intial
purchase
> > and in up keep how can it lead to a more expensive airplane. Cost of the
> > present designs are due to the materials and mathods of production
> > required tokeep the weight down. A little more room would make more
> > pedestrian material like balsa , ply. and foam to come back or at least
> > make the average builder have hope.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom Shaw wrote:
> >
> >> You guys need to leave well enough alone.  With the unlimited engines a
> >> higher weight limit is just going to ecourage larger more expenseive
> >> airplanes.  That will amount to fewer flyers.
> >>
> >>     ----- Original Message -----
> >>     *From:* Gray E Fowler <mailto:gfowler at raytheon.com>
> >>     *To:* discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
> >>     *Sent:* Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:25 PM
> >>     *Subject:* RE: *SPAM* Re: Rules Survey
> >>
> >>
> >>     Here comes the dreaded weight debate again....
> >>
> >>     Consider this-Anyone in the upper level classes would not be too
> >>     smart to have a plane heavier than it needs to be.  But, lets
> >>     pretend there is a hot new Sportsman named uh lets see..... Chuck.
> >>     Chuck tears up 401 after 3 contests, and he is flying his best
> >>     airplane that most FAI guys would consider a toy (and I do not
> >>     mean the "foamie toys" pictured in last months Model Aviation
> >>     being held by  a guy named "Chuck")  and so moving up to
> >>     Intermediate halfway thru his first season, last 3 contests were
> >>     quite a challenge, BUT he places in 402 anyway!
> >>     In the off season, he saves his pennies, keeps his wife happy and
> >>     gets a used REAL pattern plane, built by someone who has a slight
> >>     heavy hand, and alas it weighs 11.5 lbs. Now this here Chuck is
> >>     good and pumped up and I would place money that this theoretical
> >>     person could place at the NATS, but his plane is over weight!!!!!
> >>     one more !
> >>
> >>     Sorry Chuck, even though you are flying at a disadvantage, we will
> >>     not let you play at the NATS........Oh unless you can spend $2k
> >>     more on another plane.
> >>
> >>     The story you have just read is about to be true, once we do not
> >>     let Chuck fly at this years NATS. But at least the French FAI rule
> >>     makers are happy.
> >>
> >>     Consider a weight change. It does not need to be across the board
> >>     and for the life of me I cannot imagine why it needs to align with
> >>     FAI.  Chuck will have a 5Kg plane *BY THE TIME HE REACHES FAI-*and
> >>     the French can be happy then*.*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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