Composite-ARF Impact question
Bill Southwell
bnbsouthwell at bellsouth.net
Wed Feb 2 18:48:03 AKST 2005
Hi Bob,
Looks like a reverse engineering project....... It would be worth it!
I really cried about losing that bird.
Another thing about Dick that I really admire is his no flash or
thrills design methods. he tests the idea for himself and makes the
judgement based on evidence not hearsey or pie in the sky. He is
really a "WERE'S THE BEEF" guy. I have tons of his threads or threads
he contributed to printed and in folders because of that. The Dalotel
had a ton of great ideas in almost all areas of construction I guess my
only option is to try to follow it as close as I can and see what I come
up with. It would be a great learning experince. Do you still have the
Petrel?
Regards
Bill
Iuka,MS
Bob Pastorello wrote:
> When Dick did the Dalotel the "plans" came out of his head onto the
> workbench. He told me that when I bought it. Same with the Petrel
> that he did.
> Quite the skilled designer....and can build like no one I've ever
> seen.
>
> I was one of the "pioneers" using the EMC 2 in 97-98, as soon as it
> came out. Won the District F3A Regional Champ in 99 with it....couple
> guys flew them to high placings at the Nats, too.
> Just "before their time"....and now look what everyone is doing...
>
> Bob Pastorello
> NSRCA 199 AMA 46373
> rcaerobob at cox.net <mailto:rcaerobob at cox.net>
> www.rcaerobats.net <http://www.rcaerobats.net>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Bill Southwell <mailto:bnbsouthwell at bellsouth.net>
> *To:* discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:27 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Composite-ARF Impact question
>
>
> I have the airframe in a few more pieces than I recieved it. went
> ot a
> fun fly and had a guy walk out into the runway when I was
> deadstick. I
> used what I had left getting away from him and had a bad off field
> landing. His profile funfly thing went home in one piece ..can't
> say the
> same for the Dalotel...sniff...snifff :>(
>
> I still have the cowl and canopy and tail section with no
> damage..........I am going to try to see if I can get a set of plans.
>
> Regards
> Bill
>
> Bill Glaze wrote:
>
> > I judged Dick at an IMAC contest ~1999 or so. His dalotel is a
> very
> > good flying airplane; he did a good job of flying it, also. He may
> > have plans available.
> > Bill Glaze
> >
> > Bill Southwell wrote:
> >
> >> I'll second that! I got excited about pattern due to one of Dicks
> >> gas designs. I had his 30% Dalotel with a ZDZ 60. It was very
> quiet
> >> and made flying an absolute
> >> dream. It was THE BEST Gasser I have ever flown. It wet my
> appetite
> >> for a pattern plane as it I came to find out it flew exactly like
> >> one. I still have the airframe and it is like taking a design
> course
> >> just looking at how Dick did things. Foamies gain and our loss for
> >> sure. I wonder if he has plans for that big Dalotel..........Would
> >> kick butt in IMAC....Like taking candy from a baby!
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Bill
> >> Iuka,MS
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Nat Penton wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dick deserves a lot of credit. He should be in the AMA Hall of
> Fame.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> *From:* Edward Skorepa <mailto:edsko at xmission.com>
> >>> *To:* discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
> <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 02, 2005 4:11 PM
> >>> *Subject:* Re: Composite-ARF Impact question
> >>>
> >>> Yea, I agree. Too bad Dick is out of pattern for good I think.
> >>> Damn foamies!
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> *From:* Bill Glaze <mailto:billglaze at triad.rr.com>
> >>> *To:* discussion at nsrca.org
> <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org> <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 02, 2005 3:15 PM
> >>> *Subject:* Re: Composite-ARF Impact question
> >>>
> >>> I've gotten a lot of help from, and had some extremely
> >>> interesting talks with, Dick Hanson. A couple of
> years ago, a
> >>> professional builder of my acquaintance, (and a
> competitor of
> >>> Dick's when Dick was building kits,) said to a group
> of us:
> >>> "The pattern flyer of today will probably never know
> how much
> >>> pattern owes Dick Hanson for what he has done." And,
> this guy
> >>> is not given to throwing around compliments!
> >>> Bill Glaze
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Bob Richards wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I agree about the Hanson models.
> >>>> I flew a Runaround in Masters at the '93
> Nats. An
> >>>> FAI flier
> >>>> who was scribing for one round told me that I would
> never get
> >>>> the scores I deserved flying an "outdated design". I
> won that
> >>>> round!
> >>>> Which reminds me! I can't remember his name,
> but
> >>>> I'd also
> >>>> like to really thank that Appalachian Monk that sold
> me that
> >>>> small can of whoop-ass before I left for the NATS. :-)
> >>>> That Runaround also had a 20 year old set of
> >>>> Violet retracts
> >>>> -- which became B&D as I recall. Bulletproof. As long
> as you
> >>>> remember to plug in the retract servo.
> :-(
> >>>> Bob R.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> */Ed Miller <edbon85 at charter.net>/
> <mailto:edbon85 at charter.net%3E/>* wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I have to second Dave Lockhart's mention of Dick
> Hanson
> >>>> Models. The best flying planes I ever owned or
> flew came
> >>>> from him. I currently own and fly 3 of his designs, a
> >>>> modified EMC per Dave Lockhart, an Elan and a 26%
> >>>> Dalotel. I've had numerous others and they were great
> >>>> flying planes.
> >>>> I'm happy with my Litco Alpha 4.
> >>>> OS makes the best 2 strokes IMHO.
> >>>> S&W fuels
> >>>> B&D retracts ( my Elan and Dalotel have retracts )
> >>>> Futaba
> >>>> Central Hobbies
> >>>> Radio South
> >>>> ES Composites
> >>>> With the exception of 2, they are all US based
> companies.
> >>>> Hmmm, wonder why
> >>>> Ed M.
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> *From:* DaveL322 at comcast.net
> <mailto:DaveL322 at comcast.net>
> >>>> <mailto:DaveL322 at comcast.net>
> >>>> *To:* discussion at nsrca.org
> <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
> >>>> <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
> >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:26 PM
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: Composite-ARF Impact question
> >>>>
> >>>> I always loved the offerings from Hanson
> (Dick and
> >>>> his son Gy) and probably have more flights and
> >>>> success with Hanson stuff than anything
> else. The
> >>>> EMC (now available, I think, from Rich Lee)
> was way
> >>>> ahead of its time, and with a few simple mods
> will
> >>>> still fly with the current day stuff.
> >>>> In almost 20 years of pattern
> >>>> flying, 2004 was the
> >>>> first time my planes were not of US origin. I am
> >>>> currently flying a pair of Vivats - full
> composite
> >>>> (FG / balsa / FG) with substantial amounts of
> >>>> prefab. I closely inspected 2 before
> shelling out
> >>>> the dough for mine, and have closely inspected
> >>>> several others since. The entire structure is
> >>>> extremely rigid and the flying weight is 9.75
> lbs.
> >>>> The flight performance and craftsmanship are
> the best
> >>>> I've seen. It is obviously a very well refined
> >>>> design and has proven to be very durable (500
> flights
> >>>> and counting). It isn't cheap, but for the
> level of
> >>>> quality, I wouldn't expect it to be cheap.
> >>>> Independant of cost, I think the value of the
> plane
> >>>> is good.
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave Lockhart
> >>>> DaveL322 at comcast.net
> <mailto:DaveL322 at comcast.net> <mailto:DaveL322 at comcast.net>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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