Performance Judging? Trial Balloon

Ron Van Putte vanputte at cox.net
Tue Aug 2 13:22:57 AKDT 2005


On Aug 2, 2005, at 3:52 PM, Terry Hemmis wrote:

> I have a healthy respect for those judges who can watch the whole 
> sequence, knowing
> it by heart, and do not look down at all to write scores down. I don't 
> think that is the norm
> though. 

I'm sure that is correct.

> Some incorrect maneuvers go unnoticed by some judges, and there are 
> pilots who
> know something was not spotted by a judge, which was to the pilot's 
> benefit  : - )

If the judge doesn't know the maneuver schedule and he judges based on 
flight elements, as he should, wrong maneuvers will be scored.  It's up 
to judges to use the "Golden Rule" when it comes to judging and judge a 
pilot as he would like to be judged.  That means the judge should know 
what the maneuver schedule is for the event(s) he judges.

>  Going back to the educational part of this discussion list, teaching 
> all pilots what each
> maneuver should look like and the types of downgrades to give, is most 
> of the battle
> for all of the sequences. 

Roger that.

Ron Van Putte

> Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 2, 2005, at 11:33 AM, Terry Hemmis wrote:
>>
>> > It is quite true that judging has it's issues. One I noticed is that
>> > there are not always
>> > scribes for judging flights in the upper levels. This means that for
>> > some judges, they
>> > look down a lot to see what the next maneuver may be or to write the
>> > score...if a
>> > judge doesn't know what they are looking for [a simple example is 
>> a 2
>> > of 4 not a half
>> > roll, they could miss it].  This can be a blessing for the 
>> pilot...or
>> > problematic for the
>> > other pilots.
>> >  
>> > If it is known who the judges are, then perhaps their effort at
>> > scoring would be much more
>> > accurate...
>>
>> I am one of those judges who doesn't use a scribe. I know what the
>> maneuver schedule is and don't need to look. I always use a legal size
>> pad on a long clipboard. I never look down at the pad during a flight.
>> After the flight is over, I transcribe the scores onto the scoresheet.
>> It takes a couple of flights to get used to putting the scores on the
>> pad without wandering down the pad, but the scores are still legible
>> even if that happens. Some judges who don't do as I do say they can't
>> do it. I just tell than it just means that I'm better than they are. 
>> <VBG>.
>>
>>
>> BTW, many of us have been using this technique for many years and I 
>> was
>> gratified that there were many more judges doing it at this year's 
>> Nats
>> than in previous years.
>>
>> Ron Van Putte
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