Scoring formula/ and observations

[BUDDYonRC at aol.com]

In a message dated 8/1/2005 10:05:52 AM Central Daylight Time,  
patternrules at earthlink.net writes:

 
Buddy don't get me wrong  here, you would think that the Nat's you should get 
the best, what I'm saying  is the intermediate and advanced already have 
equal exposure to the judges,  where as the master's and FAI doesn't thus the 
finals.
 One other observation is  that in intermediate and advanced seem to be more 
about winning than master  and FAI you would think that there vying for a 60 
million dollar endorsement  deal, there not and they lose sight of the meeting 
old friends learning new  things and improving.
 Steve Maxwell
 


 

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From:   (mailto:BUDDYonRC at aol.com) 
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Sent: 8/1/2005 8:52:19 AM 
Subject: Re: Scoring formula/ and  observations



In a message dated 7/31/2005 10:04:05 PM Central Daylight Time,  
patternrules at earthlink.net writes:

Buddy the biggest reason that they do finals in masters and FAI, is  that 
they don't fly in front of the same judges unlike  the Intermediate and advanced 
then you have the problem of finding more  judges also according to the number 
of pilots you use in both  classes, if you use 8 pilots and single flight 
lines and 3 rounds it  wouldn't be over and all others would, if they use 2 
flight lines  then more judges just don't seem practical to me.  
No I don't fly  advanced anymore for many reasons #1 because I feel like I 
have a  short time to get as good as I can be at age 56, the last 3 years I  
have practiced the FAI pattern in the fall and feel I have learned much  more 
than staying flying advanced, so now I only flying FAI not good  at it but I 
learn something every time I fly, #2 I like the pattern  changing every 2 years #3 
not everyone and there brother have a say in  what FAI do (less problems and 
headaches) #4 I never could get score down  at the site 4 and from what I 
could see I was one of a few that  was tring to emulate the FAI and Masters 
pilots, I proved this last year  last day, by just doing fast rolls no finess at all 
just fast and stop my  scores went up by 100 raw points I was told all years 
on site 4 that I was  the only one that really ever showed good throttle  
management but still no scores #5 if I'm  going to be last I'd rather be last in 
FAI than last in  advanced.

 
 
Steven Maxwell
_patternrules at earthlink.net_ (mailto:patternrules at earthlink.net) 
EarthLink Revolves Around You.
 



Steven
There are plenty of judges available to do what I suggest, even to the  point 
of flying everyone in front of the same judges. The fact is that if  you do 
this many will be required to judge two and some all three days. If  people go 
to the Nat's to pick the best then they should be willing to do  what is 
necessary to accomplish that. If they use the Nat's as a vacation  and are not 
willing to do what is necessary to help assure  that, then we will never know who 
is actually the best we will only  know who in a mathematical probability  
most likely is the  best, and given the fact that the best judges are not used 
every day on  every flight line the mathematical probability is most likely not 
correct so  why do we continue to settle for the possibility of allowing the 
worst  of the best determine the winners. 
If that is what we want, then I will get off of my soap box and shut my  
mouth.
Buddy   




Steve
Equal exposure to less than the best possible judges does not necessarily  
result in picking the best of the best in Intermediate and Advanced.
Likewise In FAI and Masters. Many who compete in the upper classes have  come 
as you say to meet old friends and enjoy the experience but we must not  
loose sight of the purpose of the Nat's. Those who attend for the joy of  the 
moment are certainly welcome but case in point are the ones who do come to  
possibly end up as winners and posses the necessary tools but are handicapped  due 
to extraneous factors such as poor judging, a system that does not provide  
equal exposure the Halo factor or anything else that does not provide the  best 
recourses available and equal opportunity for all.  
Buddy
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