Scoring formula/ and observations

[BUDDYonRC at aol.com]

In a message dated 7/31/2005 2:58:08 PM Central Daylight Time,  
vanputte at cox.net writes:


On  Jul 31, 2005, at 1:52 PM, BUDDYonRC at aol.com wrote:

> I  would  like to share a few points that I think are important that 
> seems to  be overlooked. From my experience at many local contests and 
>  observations at the past eight Nat's those who shouldn't be in the 
>  judges chair have had a significant impact on deciding the order of 
>  finish, unfortunately many inexperienced judges award higher scores 
>  for smoothness and gracefulness (impression judges) and overlook  
> obvious downgrades.
> Those effected the most by this fact  at the Nat's is the group flying 
> Advanced, in most contests FAI  pilots judge the Masters class, Masters 
> pilots judge FAI, Advanced  pilots judge Intermediate and Advanced is 
> predominately judged  by Intermediate pilots, many who have little 
> judging experience. This  was the case at the Nat's this year. In the 
> prelims. for FAI and  Masters only FAI and Masters judges were used to 
> judge each other,  Likewise only Advanced pilots were used to judge 
> Intermediate.  In Advanced, the first two days the majority of judges 
> were  intermediate pilots, some who had little experience and on the 
> third  day all judges were Masters pilots which may explain and point 
> out  why the order of finish changed so much each day.

Excuse me for  editing Buddy's last e-mail, but I extracted from his 
e-mail to make the  point I want to make.

Buddy is correct.  When possible. F3A pilots  judge Master.  Master 
pilots judge F3A AND Advanced, Advanced pilots  judge Intermediate and 
selected Intermediate pilots judge Advanced.   The problem comes when 
there aren't enough Master pilots to judge both F3A  and Advanced.  
Suppose you've got 110 contestants with a 25/50/25/10  or a 30/50/20/10 
F3A/Master/Advanced/Intermediate split.  Things are  rosy:  There's just 
enough Master pilots to cover F3A and  Advanced.  More often there 
aren't enough Master pilots to cover  both.  You must use the Master 
pilots to cover F3A, because you  generally wouldn't want an 
Intermediate pilot judging F3A.  Then  you're forced to augment the 
available Master pilots with Intermediate  pilots to fill the judging 
matrix.  That's why it's important to fill  in the information on the 
Nats entry form, indicating the ability to judge  higher classes.  The 
only other alternative is for Master pilots to  volunteer for extra 
judging duty.

Ron Van  Putte





Ron
I am aware of what you are saying, but isn't it time to admit that the  
methods used presently leave a lot to be desired when it comes to picking the  best 
of the best at the Nat's?
If that is what we are there for what is wrong and who would object to  
judging or performing any other duties required to see that that happens. Why  not 
make everyone available all three days to judge and utilize a / your  judge 
rating system to place the best judges available on every flight line  every day 
for every round. That is the only way that we can attempt to assure  that we 
have done our best to pick the best. anything less and you never  know.
If this was done everyone could fly in front of the same judges and  there 
would be no question. Picking the best of the best takes the best of the  best 
when it comes to judging, can anyone argue with that fact.
Buddy   
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