Andrew's crash

[Keith Black]

It makes me sick to hear about this type of thing.

Like Peter my first thought after reading the description was how could the
plane do a big loop and sheer the wings off if the PCM lock cut the throttle
to idle. The plane probably still would have been lost, but the danger
factor would be reduced. We can all imagine many scenarios where this
accident could have been much worse with the engine running at high speed,
I'm glad no one was hurt.

BTW, I have no personal info that Andrew didn't have PCM lock cut the
throttle other than speculation based on the description.

A few years back a boy was killed by a runaway plane that went into PCM lock
at high throttle. Over looking this when setting up a plane is real easy,
this should serve as a reminder for all of us to double check our setups to
make sure our throttles a cut to idle.

My sympathies go to all involved.

Keith Black


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Pennisi" <pentagon.systems at bigpond.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 5:20 PM
Subject: RE: Andrew's crash


>
>
> Sorry to hear about the incident.
>
> It does raise the same old question. Do you use hold or fail safe in a
> receiver. Sounds as if hold was used in this case based on the description
> of the crash. This could have been an even uglier scene.
>
> I always use failsafe which at least chops the throttle to idle
(especially
> on large models)
>
> Not trying to be insensitive, I really feel sorry for all parties involved
> especially when you're all friends.
>
>
> PP
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
On
> Behalf Of Wayne Galligan
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2005 8:10 AM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Andrew's crash
>
> I think a call for more discriminating freq control should have been in
> order here.
> I wasn't going to say anything but here goes....   Isn't flying behind the
> flight line an infraction of the AMA safety rules?  Unless you have a
> designated area, i.e. helo's, rockets, c/line,  I would think that his
> misfortune could have possibly been averted.  Pretty easy to just switch
on
> and flip the foamie in the air.  Saw this happening at the contest here in
> Texas this past weekend out in the parking lot.  Makes you wonder if they
> have the freq pin.
>   At our flying field it is a requirement that you fly(and this is any
type
> of aircraft,rocket,glider,helo) in front of the designated flight line and
> proper use of the freq control board.   The park models/foamies as simple
> and easy to fly anywhere could become the issue of a serious accident.
> Don't take me wrong... I think the foamies and electrics are a great
thing.
> They should be restricted to the same rules as a 40%'er is when your at
the
> club flying field.
>
> Wayne G.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Strickland" <richard.s at allied-callaway.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Andrew's crash
>
>
> > What a case for more discriminating receivers!
> >
> > RS
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jason" <jasonshulman at cox.net>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:35 PM
> > Subject: RE: Andrew's crash
> >
> >
> > > OK, then I won't.... sorry
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Atwood, Mark
> > > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:29 PM
> > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > Subject: RE: Andrew's crash
> > >
> > >
> > > Please say it wasn't his brand new Yak that he won with at Toledo....
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Jason
> > > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:27 PM
> > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > Subject: RE: Andrew's crash
> > >
> > > Heard that he had just taken off when someone in the parking lot was
> > > checking his foamy (same Freq) and the plane locked out and did a
great
> > > big
> > > loop before the wings sheared off prior to hitting the runway.
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of John Crozier
> > > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:17 PM
> > > To: discussion nsrca
> > > Subject: Andrew's crash
> > >
> > >
> > > Anybody know what happened to Andrew's plane Friday at the AMA?
> > > A local guy (not a flyer) only knew it was a "big" plane, and it
> > > crashed.
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