Fw: Judging Controversy - Part 2

Sun Sep 12 02:31:22 AKDT 2004

I agree Ken..  Some need to  RE - READ the 3 part that Frank G. thankfully posted to show that.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ken Velez 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:05 PM
  Subject: Re: Fw: Judging Controversy - Part 2

   Bill, the way I understand it is that NSRCA submits a list to the AMA which will present a list to FAI and the FAI will make the decision. But the only difference that I see here is that Bob Noll was selected for the 2003 WC by the AMA apparently not knowing that the judge for 2003 was already been selected and was reassigned to 2005 WC.

  Ken
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Bill Glaze 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 12:19 AM
    Subject: Re: Fw: Judging Controversy - Part 2

    Ken:
    Thanks for Part 2.  But, I'm still confused by the contradictory statements.  Does our judge get chosen from a list submitted to the FAI by the AMA, or does the judge get chosen by the AMA, (Presumably Dave Brown?)  I realize that, at this juncture, the AMA is not required to recognize any list of preferred persons submitted to it by NSRCA.  Was Bob Noll chosen by AMA fiat, or was he chosen from a list submitted to FAI, by the FAI committee?  Understand: I am certainly not challenging his, or anyone's, qualifications.  Just trying to acquaint myself (and, hopefully, others who may be interested) in the chain of command and legal procedure.
    Thanks to all of the knowledgeable folks who are enlightening the rest of us.  It just may stimulate a further interest in flying FAI :-) 

    Bill Glaze

    Ken Velez wrote:

Here is part 2

Ken
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Lachowski" <jlachow at hotmail.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: Judging Controversy - Part 2

  The AMA responded positively to the NSRCA efforts by requesting that the
NSRCA submit FIVE potential WC judges to add to the AMA President's list
    of
  potential American WC judges for future reference. While the AMA offered
    to
  consider the NSRCA nominees, it did not commit to choosing one of the
nominees as a judge. They did promise to consider our nominees very
seriously, however. Significantly, Bob Noll was also included in the top
five judges and was therefore recommended to the AMA along with four
    others.
  Here occurred the major misunderstanding. It is possible that some members
of the NSRCA Board thought the "NSRCA Five" that were submitted in June
    2004
  were to serve at the 2005 WC. Wrong. Based upon the prior NSRCA - AMA
consultations, Bob Noll's name had already been sent to the FAI in 2003
along with others. The FAI nominated four people from the list, Earl, Bob,
Matt Kebabjian and Don Ramsey as potential 2005 US judges in March 2004,
months before the NSRCA Five were nominated. The "Five" are, in reality,
    our
  nominees for 2007.

However, it is very important to note that the WC US judge represents, not
the NSRCA, but the AMA and the United States to the World. Therefore, the
selected nominee needs to have far more abilities than just being a good
judge. While judging ability is important, it is just really a minor
    factor
  in the selection. Actually, good judging performance is considered a
    "given"
  in our WC judge. Fortunately, through Ron and company's efforts, we have a
system for making sure that this "given" is actually present in our
nominees.

But There are far more important factors than simple judging ability in
    the
  selection. Why?

First, our WC judge must possess accomplished diplomatic and sales skills
    in
  order to weave effectively through the complex international factors,
cliques, undercurrents and intrigue that are part of the WC to best
    benefit
  the US Team. Most countries send the same judge every year and
    relationships
  are built that our judge, being new, is not party to. He must build those
relationships quickly and effectively.

Second, our judge must posses an international reputation that engenders
respect in order to maximize his effectiveness in the short time period
available.

Third, the judge's "resume" must be superb and beyond reproach. It should
include judging and/or managing National Contests, judging Team Selection
events, be one of unquestioned fairness, integrity and attention to detail
and must include having successfully judged "Unknowns."

If the judge lacks any of these qualifications, then his effectiveness as
the AMA and US representative is reduced until his abilities have a chance
to be recognized while "in action" overseas.

Finally, the AMA President must be personally comfortable with the names
presented to the FAI. After all, the judge represents the AMA President.
    Any
  problems that develop, or performance that under serves, reflects poorly
upon the AMA President, the AMA and on all US RC modeling in the World's
eyes. That is why the AMA President alone is the only one to make the
    judges
  list selection and chooses whose name is first on the list given the FAI.

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