European Champs, Alcochete, Portugal 2004

Ron Van Putte vanputte at cox.net
Mon Sep 6 16:38:50 AKDT 2004 

On Sep 6, 2004, at 6:13 PM, Bill Glaze wrote:

> Joe:
> I would like to raise the idea that things like this, perhaps, are 
> just what the membership needs to know is going on.  I hope that 
> informing us is the idea here; I hope that there are no private axes 
> to grind; if so, they will quickly out.  If there is somebody else 
> running for office, I feel that it is possible that information like 
> this will make people aware of just why they should vote a certain 
> way.  I hope.  An informed electorate............well, you get the 
> idea.

Bill Glaze is right.  My philosophy is, "There's no such thing as too 
much information".  I wanted everyone to know what was going on with 
the F3A judge selection for the 2005 World Championships.  I don't like 
someone, "working the system" to be "selected" for the World 
Championships, when there are three other U.S. judges with better 
ratings.

Ron Van Putte

> Joe Lachowski wrote:
>
>> Ron could you please leave be already. This is not the place to air 
>> this stuff.  This is something the NSRCA executive needs to handle 
>> between it and the AMA.  Hope you're not voting for the incumbent in 
>> the coming AMA election. <g>.
>>
>> Vote Dave Mathewson for Pesident.
>>
>>
>>> From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
>>> Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>> Subject: Fwd: European Champs,  Alcochete, Portugal  2004
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 09:58:41 -0500
>>>
>>> All - Another e-mail I got  from Bengt-Eric Soderstrom follows.  I 
>>> find it interesting that Bob Skinner (from South Africa, who is the 
>>> chairman of the international committee for F3A world championships) 
>>> said that Bob Noll would be the next U.S. world championships judge, 
>>> when it is up to a country to submit a list of potential judge 
>>> candidates and the responsibility of the host country's  organizing 
>>> committee to select from the list.
>>>
>>> Ron Van Putte
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: Bengt-Erik Soderstrom <bes at wll.swipnet.se>
>>>> Date: September 6, 2004 9:30:04 AM CDT
>>>> To: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: European Champs,  Alcochete, Portugal  2004
>>>>
>>>> Hi again Ron,
>>>>
>>>> Again about Bob Noll:
>>>>
>>>> The information I wrote (below) I got from Bob Skinner now, two 
>>>> weeks ago,  in Portugal.. He said that Bob Noll would be the next 
>>>> U.S judge, and found it good that he was - on his own initiative - 
>>>> training himself in Poland.. He also had some comments about U.S 
>>>> judges being appointed for a two-year period, which means that 
>>>> U.S.A will on each World Champs have a rookie judge, and it would 
>>>> be better if they could at least be listed and available for 2  
>>>> WCs.
>>>> But of course, AMA is the U.S body to make the official judges list 
>>>> for the U.S.A.
>>>>
>>>> I also hope our paths will cross again, why don't you come to 
>>>> France next year?
>>>> Would be nice ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Bengt-Erik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ron Van Putte wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Bengt-Eric - Nice to hear from you.  Thanks for the report on the 
>>>>> European Champs.  I forwarded it to our R/C aerobatics discussion 
>>>>> list to let them know about the European Champs and what you said 
>>>>> about Bob Noll.  When you read the way I prefaced your e-mail, you 
>>>>> will understand.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck.  I hope our paths cross in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron Van Putte
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
>>>>>> Date: September 5, 2004 3:20:36 PM CDT
>>>>>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>>>> Subject: Fwd: European Champs,  Alcochete, Portugal  2004
>>>>>> Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All - I just got the forwarded e-mail from Bengt-Erik Soderstrom, 
>>>>>> who is a Swedish F3A judge.  I met him at the 1995 F3A World 
>>>>>> Championships in Kasaoka, Japan.  We hung out together throughout 
>>>>>> the event.  We renewed our acquaintance at the 1999 F3A World 
>>>>>> Championships in Pensacola, FL.  In fact, his return flight was 
>>>>>> out of New Orleans, so I took him over there a day early and we 
>>>>>> spent the afternoon/evening at the French Quarter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You will note that he refers to Bob Noll as THE U.S. judge for 
>>>>>> the next F3A World Championships.  This despite the fact that the 
>>>>>> list of the top five U.S. judges is just now being sent to the 
>>>>>> 2005 F3A World Championships organizing committee and Bob Noll is 
>>>>>> the fourth-ranked judge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This all started when Bob announced to me at the 2003 F3A Team 
>>>>>> Selection Finals that he was to be the U.S. judge in 2005.  He 
>>>>>> paid his own way to Poland and announced there that he was to be 
>>>>>> the U.S. judge in 2005.  He managed to get into all the judging 
>>>>>> functions and did practice judging with the actual judges.   This 
>>>>>> is a very curious situation.  How Noll can be so sure that he 
>>>>>> will be the 2005 U.S. judge is beyond me, unless he has a 
>>>>>> high-level AMA official as a sponsor (read Dave Brown).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's Bengt-Eric's e-mail:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron Van Putte
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Bengt-Erik Soderstrom <bes at wll.swipnet.se>
>>>>>>> Date: September 5, 2004 1:50:59 PM CDT
>>>>>>> To: vanputte at cox.net
>>>>>>> Subject: European Champs,  Alcochete, Portugal  2004
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi there Ron, long time, no see...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it would be interesting for you to get a small report 
>>>>>>> from the 2004 EU Champs in F3A, just recently held, all seen 
>>>>>>> through a judge's eye
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Winner this time was Roland Matt  - Wolfgangs son
>>>>>>> 2nd was Christophe Paysant-Le Roux
>>>>>>> 3rd was Wolfgang Matt
>>>>>>> It was during the whole competition very close between Roland 
>>>>>>> and Christophe. It was a tie in the finals, so then the semi 
>>>>>>> finals results needed to be used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Matts were flying their latest: the Lazulite and this time 
>>>>>>> the electric version.  Weight of their models were 4950 grams 
>>>>>>> incl battery.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It looks like that this event was really the breakthrough for 
>>>>>>> the electric power-plants. Many pilots in spite of the very high 
>>>>>>> pricetag flew electric models.
>>>>>>> (Electric engine incl regulating electronics, gearbox etc.: 
>>>>>>> About 1.000 US$, Battery pack about 800 $.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I heard that in the next year's World Champs, to be held in 
>>>>>>> St-Yan in France.  Bob Noll has been chosen as the U.S judge. I 
>>>>>>> met him in Poland last year, he is a good guy and he is very 
>>>>>>> welcome into the club.  St-Yan is a small town not easily found 
>>>>>>> on the maps, but it is situated about half way between Paris and 
>>>>>>> Lyon, right in the center of the best wine districts in France.
>>>>>>> If you happen to met him, please give him my regards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Word goes around that the 2007 World champs will go to Canada, 
>>>>>>> we will see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope everything is well with you, Ron. I wish you and your 
>>>>>>> wife all the best.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bengt-Erik Soderstrom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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