CD's

[Rcmaster199 at aol.com]

I think that its a good idea to give Sportsmen the opportunity to judge  
unofficially. Have a Sportsman pilot judge along with with the seasoned judges  
that have be asigned for the round, any class. Have them discretely look over  
the assigned judges' shoulders. No talking of course until the flights are 
done,  and their scores do not count, but what better way to expose Sportsmen  
pilots?
 
Do this only for the first two rounds of a contest or until all the  Sportmen 
have "judged", which ever is best to expose all. Takes just a bit more  
planning by the CD but the service to the judging pool in any District would be  
invaluable.
 
Doesn't answer Nat's original issue with too many pilots not enough judges,  
but its a start. By the second or third contest, you could have an extra half  
dozen judges you otherwise wouldn't have.
 
MattK
 
In a message dated 10/28/2004 7:33:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
mrandmrst at comcast.net writes:

Hi All,
 I have yet to be at a contest that  Sportsman pilots were given the 
opportunity to judge, however, I can surely  see that logic.  Most Sportsman pilots, 
that I have met, are so new  to the Pattern world, they haven't the knowledge 
of proper form of the  maneuvers in the upper classes to judge them fairly.
You have to know what the maneuver is supposed to  look like to judge it 
properly.  As for myself, I have completed about  half of a complete season as a 
Sportsman pilot in D4, and I plan to attend a  judging seminar next year so I 
can be of service if called upon.
 
Ken

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _Wayne Galligan_ (mailto:wgalligan at goodsonacura.com)  
To: _discussion at nsrca.org_ (mailto:discussion at nsrca.org)  
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:58  PM
Subject: Re: CD's


Nat,
 
I think one should at least have attended a  judging seminar.  I for one did 
not feel comfortable judging till I  went to a judging seminar.  At that point 
do you have a good  idea of what constitutes the criterion for being able to 
judge a  given class?  I think when you can keep up with each maneuver with  
out any lapse in judgment to the next maneuver your capable of judging  that 
class.  Heck... sportsman class can be a challenge when you have a  guy that 
flies a fast pattern.   Be fair to yourself and don't be  ashamed if you missed a 
maneuver. That's what N/O (not observed) rule is  for.  Use a scribe if you 
feel the flow goes to fast so you can  concentrate on the whole picture.  As 
Master Don Ramsey taught  me... All maneuvers start with 10 and then get 
deductions from there.   Don't make the mistake like I did when I  first started 
judging of  watching the whole maneuver then giving a score.  Takes to much time 
to  think about it.
 
Wayne GO. want be a good judge.
 
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _Nat Penton_ (mailto:natpenton at centurytel.net)  
To: _discussion at nsrca.org_ (mailto:discussion at nsrca.org)  
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 4:07  PM
Subject: CD's


The Sulphur , La. contest was just completed  with six rounds flown. There 
were 23 fliers with 8 sportsman and 7  intermediate.
 
The judge assignments were approached with  the following (mis) conceptions:
         Sportsman             no judging
        Intermediate           Sports and Adv only
 
This placed quite a burden on the upper class  judges.
 
Would appreciate comments regarding criteria.  TIA





 
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