gasoline in FAI fuel?

Wed Oct 13 13:58:06 AKDT 2004

Many years ago, when using fuel that had an excess of 45% nitro-methane, I had to add about 2% of nitro-benzene (shoe polish smell) to have the fuel mix thoroughly.

ORLANDO FRETS
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Dean Pappas 
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Sent: 10/13/2004 11:52:06 AM 
Subject: RE: gasoline in FAI fuel?

Bill,
That sound familiar ... benzol or prope! (propelene oxide)

Dean Pappas 
Sr. Design Engineer 
Kodeos Communications 
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-----Original Message-----
From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bill Glaze
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:50 AM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: gasoline in FAI fuel?

Also interesting to me is how the stuff mixes.  When I was racing, to get gas and alky to homogenize, we had to add about 2% benzine. (benzol.)  Bill Glaze

Troy Newman wrote: 
Gasoline also destroys  other silicone parts like Fuel tubing, and O-rings
in glow motors.

TN
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Pappas" <d.pappas at kodeos.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: gasoline in FAI fuel?

Gasoline also destroys the silicone bits in a YS pump.

Dean Pappas
Sr. Design Engineer
Kodeos Communications
111 Corporate Blvd.
South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
(908) 222-7817 phone
(908) 222-2392 fax
d.pappas at kodeos.com

-----Original Message-----
From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bill Glaze
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 4:56 PM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: gasoline in FAI fuel?

Wayne:
Gasoline has the highest specific heat value.  Methanol has about 1/2
the specific heat, and nitro has about half the specific heat of
methane, or about 1/4 the heat value of gasoline.  The reason that nitro
is such a h.p. builder, is because you can, if necessary, run a hellish
amount of the stuff, because it makes it's own Oxygen. Same as double
base gunpowder.  Adding nitroglycerine helps the combustion, at the
expense of greater barrel erosion.  Or, as we used to say:  "Nitro
destroys bank accounts."

Bill Glaze

Wayne Galligan wrote:

Yes... I am interested in hearing this theory.   I thought gasoline had
fewer btu's then alcohol and how does it aid in ignition?   Does it retard
ignition or advance it?

Lance V. has been running FAI fuel through his engines as an after run to
dissipate the nitro left over in the engine.  I am waiting for his results
as he just started doing this in the last few months,

Wayne G.

 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: brianyemail-nsrca at yahoo.com
 To: discussion at nsrca.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 1:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: bearings/fuel

 Youre saying add 15% gasoline to FAI fuel? Does the power compare to

nitro

fuel and how about the idle?

 ray ayestaran <pizzaalt at concentric.net> wrote:
   nitro is causing that bearing rust, try fai fuel with 15%gas added also
don't run your engine dry after flying, just drain tank allow some oil to
protect bearings from moisture. a soft mount without nose ring will allow
engine to oscillate around crank putting much more pressure on bearings at
unintended angles. have you ever held a mechanical gyro while spinning - if
you move it left, right, up or down it will not react but as soon as you
twist it off axis it will drop rpm and fight.

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