Diamond stab cross section - Dean Pappas

[Bill Glaze]

When Jason went to the World's, the word from knowledgeable sources, 
(people involved in the Trials at Triple Tree ) said $750.  That's where 
I got the figure.  No, not right then; I'm fully aware that Jason flew 
glow at the tryouts.  It was later, after he had flown in Poland.  And, 
it wasn't stressed; just mentioned.  As I say, it's my best information, 
at the time.  If it's changed, so be it.  It would be for the better.
Bill Glaze

Doug Cronkhite wrote:

> This is the problem with rumor as opposed to fact. Where did you get 
> the idea the batteries were $750 each? You're looking at about $350 
> per full battery setup (2 x 5s3p) so 2 packs would be around $700.
>  
> I don't think you'll ever NEED to fly electric, at least not in the 
> forseeable future. Some of us just want to do so now.
>  
> -Doug
>  
>  
>  
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>     From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>     [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bill Glaze
>     Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:24 PM
>     To: discussion at nsrca.org
>     Subject: Re: Diamond stab cross section - Dean Pappas
>
>     Del:
>     I can only ride one horse at a time.  I've come to the conclusion
>     that, if I were to go electric, I would have to dispense with all
>     my glow stuff.  And, considering that the battery packs are
>     rumored to be as much as $750 per, and the motors seem to be as
>     expensive as the glow engines I'm running,  it would seem that the
>     break-even point for cost, (if there is one<G>) would be so far
>     down the road as to be impractible.  If and when electrics get
>     extremely popular, the glow equipment will lose what resale value
>     it has, making the financial gulf even wider.  Plus, it is also
>     rumored that the operational life of the packs are nowhere near
>     the cyclic ability of the lesser stressed forms of battery technology.
>     If someone has started in electrics from the git-go, and they
>     decide they want to go pattern, the jump in technology/price may
>     be considerably smaller.  Depending, of course, on battery cost,
>     which will be determined, among many other factors, on how many
>     packs this individual feels they need, and the motor cost.  It
>     very well could be the way to go for that individual.  And, it
>     follows, that the dedicated battery flyer, who has become
>     interested in pattern, would naturally look for an electric
>     outlet. (Har!)
>     I do believe that there are electrics in pattern in the future,
>     just not probably in my future.  And, I am reminded that battery
>     techhnology is an industrial segment that, right now, is in a
>     state of heavy flux and research, and movement forward.
>     That's as far as my crystal ball reaches, right now!  And, it's
>     worth what most opinions are worth.
>
>     Bill Glaze
>
>     Del Rykert wrote:
>
>>     Electrics won't ruin pattern but it will drive some away from the
>>     sport...  Those that can't afford to switch will be left playing
>>     with a dis-advantage similar to the 60 versus 120 size fiasco. 
>>     Many claimed it wasn't going to make that big of difference but
>>     it will or else so many wouldn't be going through all the trouble
>>     of developing electrics.  No the sky isn't falling but it sure
>>     isn't going to bring a bunch of new fliers to pattern either.
>>      
>>                              del
>>                    NSRCA - 473
>>
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>         From: Bob Richards <mailto:bob at toprudder.com>
>>         To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>>         Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 11:11 PM
>>         Subject: RE: Diamond stab cross section - Dean Pappas
>>
>>         Electrics are going to ruin pattern!!! :-)
>>          
>>         Kick butt, Jason!!
>>
>>
>>         Jason <jasonshulman at cox.net <mailto:jasonshulman at cox.net>> wrote:
>>
>>             Don't forget how bad an electric pattern plane will
>>             be...especially at the Worlds....
>>              
>>             Sorry, had to say it.
>>
>>                 -----Original Message-----
>>                 From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>>                 <mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org>
>>
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