Masters 2005 questions

[Jim_Woodward at beaerospace.com]

Good Note Bob.  Sounds simple, but this new Masters sequence is going to 
highlight one singular pattern fundamental above all.......... 
ready................ "exiting maneuvers with wings level, level flight, 
on heading."  If you can do this, you will be able to create short line 
lengths in between upwind turnaround maneuvers and centered rolling 
maneuvers.  If you exit maneuvers, and need to fix a few things, the 
centered rolling maneuvers will look rushed and will be displaced from 
center.  Until exiting maneuvers wings level, in level flight is 
"Mastered," the tendency will be to fly far out, which is itself a 
downgrade.   Possibly, the most important practice for this pattern could 
be simply, exiting the upwind maneuvers on heading, wings level, in level 
flight.

This is EXACTLY what I felt was the biggest transition (for me) going from 
Masters 2003 to FAI 2004.  The FAI pattern demands exiting maneuvers 
locked on, to have room for the rolling maneuvers.  Same will now be true 
of the new Masters pattern. 

It will be fun to coach and watch.  I see some close parallels to the P05 
pattern in terms of positioning difficulty. 
Jim W.






"Bob Pastorello" <rcaerobob at cox.net>
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The Fig. 9 occurs at the point in the sequence where you SHOULD be toward 
your outermost flight line horizontal distance anyway.  It can be a bit 
larger because of that, but the REAL problem with this manuever is 
centering the SLOW ROLL maneuver AFTER it in the box that's left.  Don't 
forget the exit of the Slow Roll into the Humpty has to have a line, 
too!!!  And THAT Humpty is a "conventional" type with an in-line loop on 
top, rather than move in/out type.  That means IT takes a pretty big chunk 
of real estate, also.
    If you keep the entire Fig. 9 in the box, and keep it pretty tight, 
then there will be space for the slow roll after.
    This is one of those sequences where horizontal flight distance OUT 
must be managed VERY critically, and no mistakes can be made.  Back on 
Manuever #7, you better choose to go OUT with the Humpty, or by the time 
the Figure 9 happens it will be in your face, rushed, pinched, and 
presentation will blow up.

Bob Pastorello
NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
rcaerobob at cox.net
www.rcaerobats.net
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lance Van Nostrand 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Masters 2005 questions

Several people have said that the 1/4 loop radius must match the 3/4 loop 
radius in the fig 9.  If this is so, then a large 3/4 loop leads to a 
disaster because the matching 1/4 loop will finish too close to center to 
do a 3+ second slow roll.  It these radii must match then as a judge, I'll 
bet that if I see a large 3/4 loop, theres a 2 point downgrade about to 
happen next.
--Lance
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: Masters 2005 questions

Jim, your assessment is correct. There are many ways to execute the Fig 9, 
and they all depend on the size of he 3/4 loop. A tiny loop will make for 
a little longer vert line, and a very large loop, for a little shorter 
vert line. 
 
Keep in mind the exiting 1/4 loop needs the same diameter as the 3/4 loop, 
which means it has to start sooner rather than later, and that will 
shorten the vert line, as long as the exiting altitude is unchanged. 
 
 
 Matt
Ref: fig 9 I take this to mean the vert. line starts at the tangent to the 
3/4 loop on the downline. This means part of the vert. line is above the 
entry line and must be  considered part of the straight downline for 
centering.

jim Ivey
 

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