Help with radio choice, Possible firestorm!

Michael Laggis fishgod at pobox.mtaonline.net
Mon Nov 8 12:44:22 AKST 2004


Thanks Troy.

Thanks
Michael Laggis
AKA Moose Boy
NSRCA 3618
http://www.alaskarc.org

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Troy A. Newman" <troy_newman at msn.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: Help with radio choice, Possible firestorm!


> Got the answer...not yet. But it will be.
>
> Probably with DS Ultra.
>
>
> TN
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Laggis" <fishgod at pobox.mtaonline.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Help with radio choice, Possible firestorm!
>
>
>> Troy,
>> Do you know if the 9303 is compatible with the Datasafe?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Michael Laggis
>> AKA Moose Boy
>> NSRCA 3618
>> http://www.alaskarc.org
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Troy Newman" <troy_newman at msn.com>
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: Help with radio choice, Possible firestorm!
>>
>>
>> > Yes both radios have a throttle curve screen. And built in ready to go
>> > just
>> > activate it up.
>> >
>> > I actually use two different throttle curves in the 10X and the 9303 
>> > has
>> > the
>> > same capability. You just assign a switch for the throttle curve and 
>> > bam
>> > you
>> > have 2 curves. I use one for windy conditions and one for calm.
>> >
>> > Troy Newman
>> > Team JR
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Fletcher, Richard" <Richard.Fletcher at gs.com>
>> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:08 PM
>> > Subject: RE: Help with radio choice, Possible firestorm!
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Troy,
>> >>
>> >>     Do these radios have a throttle curve screen like the 9Z? I recall
> a
>> >> friend who struggled with the 8103 this summer trying to program his
>> >> throttle so that it had a linear feel. He was not able to do it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rich
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
>> > On
>> >> Behalf Of Troy Newman
>> >> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:04 PM
>> >> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> >> Subject: Re: Help with radio choice, Possible firestorm!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Both the 9303 and 10X have trim resolution that can be changed same as
>> >> the
>> >> 9Z. This is an important feature as Richard mentions. I use the One
> beep
>> >> equals 4 % when test flying a unknown model. This way if something
>> >> happens
>> >> you don't need to go beep-beep-beep-beep-beep a bunch of times to
> correct
>> >> the issue quickly...Then after we know the model is close on the trim
>> >> tabs
>> > I
>> >> dial it down to 1beep is 1% and have super fine adjustment of the trim
>> > tabs.
>> >> As always trimming the model goes beyond moving the TX trim tabs. 
>> >> These
>> > are
>> >> for fine adjustments and daily condition changes.
>> >>
>> >> The flexibility to configure the models differently is a real bonus in
>> >> today's modern radios
>> >>
>> >> Troy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Fletcher, Richard" <Richard.Fletcher at gs.com>
>> >> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> >> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:38 AM
>> >> Subject: RE: Help with radio choice, Possible firestorm!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Problems I have seen with these radios are that the trim sensitivity
>> >> > is
>> >> too
>> >> > coarse. One click the plane climbs and one down click and it dives.
>> >> > Also they do not have ad adequate throttle curve so the throttle is
>> >> > too jumpy. Personally I have two 9ZAPs and am very happy with them.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Rich
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>> >> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
>> >> On
>> >> > Behalf Of Troy Newman
>> >> > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 2:27 PM
>> >> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> >> > Subject: Re: Help with radio choice, Possible firestorm!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Glen,
>> >> >
>> >> > Look to the new 9303. It is priced in the same ball park as the 8103
>> >> > but
>> >> is
>> >> > a significant step up. It has flight modes and can be activated by a
>> >> single
>> >> > 3 position switch. So if you want all your rate change on a  single
>> >> > switch its great. This switch is assignable to where you want it. If
>> >> > you want
>> >> them
>> >> > separate them that's an option too. The 9303 has throttle curves, 
>> >> > and
>> >> mixing
>> >> > capability that make it a really great radio for pattern flying.
>> >> >
>> >> > I still love the 10X but the 9303 is the best radio I have seen on
> the
>> >> > market other than the flagship radios like the 10X and Futaba 9Z.
>> >> >
>> >> > Another really good thing is the way the 9303 can gang servos
>> >> > together.
>> >> They
>> >> > call it Mating the servos. Instead of mixing like elevator to gear
> for
>> >> dual
>> >> > elevators. You just Mate them and its all done. Set the end points
> and
>> >> > subtrims and they will track together and trim works for both...Its
>> >> > just like having a new channel in slot 5 called Left elevator. The
>> >> > programming also changes the name of the channel for you so you 
>> >> > don't
>> >> > get confused.
>> >> This
>> >> > can be done for ailerons, dual rudder servos, dual elevator servos,
> or
>> >> just
>> >> > about anything. I just spent the last week hanging out with the New
>> >> Zealand
>> >> > crew before they headed down to the Tucson Shootout. The word Mate
> was
>> >> used
>> >> > a bunch. Great guys.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any case back to the subject at hand.....PCM is the only way to go,
> it
>> >> > is
>> >> so
>> >> > much better at rejection of the interference. JR has a new 7channel
>> >> > PCM RX that is under $100 its great its the R770. Its also light
>> >> > weight. I have used in in 2M pattern models and is perfect. Only
>> >> > weighs like 1oz and the price is right too.
>> >> >
>> >> > Both the 9303 and the R770 PCM RX are outstanding products. Look 
>> >> > into
>> >> > them and you will be impressed.
>> >> >
>> >> > Troy Newman
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "glenn Loud" <wildweasel07 at comcast.net>
>> >> > To: "Discussion at Nsrca.Org" <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> >> > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:51 AM
>> >> > Subject: Help with radio choice, Possible firestorm!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > As I am gearing up for getting back into pattern I want to upgrade
>> >> > > to a better transmitter as my old JR is dated and frankly worn 
>> >> > > out.
>> >> > > I was thinking of JR 8103 or Futaba 9UAP  either one I will have 
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > buy 2 new PCM recievers and I only have JR servos in my soon to be
>> >> > > backup Icepoint. (I will be getting new digitals for my soon to be
>> >> > > Number 1 Icepoint. ) I will be flying 402 next year.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Rational disscussion allways welcome, lets not let this evolve 
>> >> > > into
>> >> > > a flame war please!
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks
>> >> > > Glenn Loud
>> >> > > Western mass dist 1
>> >> > >
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