Rules Proposals Final Vote

Ed Deaver divesplat at yahoo.com
Tue May 11 19:11:22 AKDT 2004


Having read all the posting on the list on this subject.  Several things are clear to me and this is simply my take on things.
 
1)  The vote is over.  What's done is done and that's it.
 
2)  Some people are mad some are not(human nature is such that usually only the upset ones voice an opinion ie lobbyiest success in our capital)
 
3)  Their is nothing at this time to be achieved by continuing to persue th negatives.
 
4)  We can however learn from this experience.  More emphasis has to be placed on calling our AMA District Reps.  A formal survey is only a document and can be scewed in any which way, same as a phone poll.  We are again at, the membership must contact the District Reps to give input.
 
5)  As with most activities or memberships, a very few are passionate and highly motivated.
 
6)  Lets do our best to accept these changes, read not agree with or like, but accept and work towards the next rules cycle where someone may add a snap into the new Intermediate schedule and if so wished, add a new rules proposal to add scoring of L/TO.
 
Just my opinion.
ed

Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net> wrote:
What follows is an exchange of e-mails between Lance Van Nostrand, the 
List, John Fuqua and me. If it comes through as presented, John's 
comments are in blue.

Ron Van Putte

From: johnfuqua at gdsys.net
Subject: RE: Rules Proposals Final Vote
Date: May 11, 2004 8:50:34 PM CDT
To: vanputte at cox.net

From: Ron Van Putte [mailto:vanputte at cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:08 AM
To: John Fuqua
Subject: Fwd: Rules Proposals Final Vote

John - FYI again.

Ron

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Lance Van Nostrand" 

Date: May 11, 2004 12:12:49 AM CDT
To: 
Subject: Re: Rules Proposals Final Vote
Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org

Ron,
John's post is interesting, and provides insight into his perspective.  
My response is:
1. We recognize that the AMA CB is independent and should vote in a way 
that represents their district.  It is part of the CB member's job to 
understand the sentiment of his district.  It's not the members 
responsibility to find him.  Without this input, he is voting 
personally from an appointed position (not democratic).

[John Fuqua]     Gotta disagree on who finds whom.  I solicit input at 
every contest I go to.  I have been at this job for 15 + years and have 
repeatedly requested input from the district, mostly to no avail.  By 
the way most Board members express the same frustration.  It ain't us.  
There are 11 of us and our names and addresses are in EVERY Model 
Aviation Magazine.  If people really wanted to provide input they 
can do so easily.  Most will not make the effort.  Rather complain 
later.  One thing I think NSRCA needs to do with the surveys is to 
correlate the data by AMA district (maybe its time to reorganize NSRCA 
to match AMA districts).  That would provide significant data to 
the Board members.  By the way I am an NSRCA supporter.  I believe in 
the broad goals and objectives of the organization.  It is trying hard 
and making a difference for all of us.  Like everyone I sometimes am at 
odds with specifics but thats the way of things. 
 
2. It is totally reasonable that he might prefer non-judged TO/L.  In 
fact 17% of the survey respondents agree with that position.  However, 
with "nada" input from his district, how can he conclude that an 
overwhelmingly unpopular opinion is the will of his constituents?

[John Fuqua]   I concluded that the District was leaving it up to me 
make the decision as I had little negative input.   
 
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