Earl's excellent observations

[Don Ramsey]

Zero

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Brian Young 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 3:06 PM
  Subject: Re: Earl's excellent observations


  What if its not?

  Don Ramsey <donramsey at cox-internet.com> wrote: 
    The landing sequence also requires that the 180 degree turn to downwind be
    in the aerobatic zone.

    Don

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "John Ferrell" 
    To: 
    Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:57 PM
    Subject: Re: Earl's excellent observations


    > I can post your drawings in my personal web space, just send me a copy.
    >
    > Bill Glaze pointed out to me that the FAI landing sequence requires that
    > once you begin your descent to landing, you can never gain any altitude
    > according to the book. There would have been a lot of unhappy finalists if
    > this was enforced at Muncie. The only available penalty is a zero...
    >
    > John Ferrell
    > http://DixieNC.US
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "Dean Pappas" 
    ! > To: 
    > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 1:25 PM
    > Subject: Earl's excellent observations
    >
    >
    > Hello All,
    > wifferdil ... I just call 'em twinkle-rolls!
    > What I would like to see is for our team members to have two new arrows in
    > their quiver at the next Worlds.
    > One is a real snap that comes out on heading or is quickly corrected.
    (hint:
    > the more deeply the airplane is stalled in the initial break, the less
    lift
    > is available for heading loss.) That's right, a half loaf is worse than
    none
    > at all.
    > The other is a rolling circle that will not violate either the judges'
    > eyesight or a reasonable interpretation of the rule book as to distance.
    The
    > book does not specifically treat this maneuver class differently, so the
    150
    > good/175 downgrade/200 severe downgrade rule obviously still applies. At
    > least it will when the Worlds' judges arbitrarily decide to start
    enforcing
    > it! Meanwhile, it's still in the book.
    > My concern is that without at least these two weapons in their arsenal,
    the
    > team will be set up to be "caught-out" as in '87. What do I mean? In '85
    > everyone at the Worlds flew at 200 ~250m. At the European Championship in
    > '86 the same was true, and Frack, Koger and I think Ivan were there as
    guest
    > participants. Sometime between then and Avignon in '87, a group of judges
    > agreed that the book was not being upheld, and started doing so. As a
    > result, we were caught-out, without even the right prop in the flight-box
    to
    > fly at the necessary speeds. Unfair? No! It was finally done by the book.
    > We risk the same issue with snaps and rolling circles. Everyone has been
    > getting away with murder on the snaps, at recent Worlds, and one day the
    > hammer is bound to drop. Besides, common sense says that the r! ollers are
    too
    > stinkin' big.
    > Other observations: I saw one square that was square in 4 rounds of the
    best
    > 8 fliers in the land. Most ranged from 20% to 50% wide, especially in the
    > vertical 8s. Oh yes the square square belonged to Quique's 1st known
    > compulsory.
    > Everybody (and I mean everybody) overlapped the entry and exit lines to
    the
    > hourglass with 2 of 4 in F05. It's a shame this list doesn't accept
    > attachments, as I'd draw up a PDF showing the wrong shape that all the
    > finalists "perfected". I'm curious as to what happened here. I don't think
    > that it's an issue of education ... Has everyone migrated to a wrong shape
    > that the judges (both local and National) are accepting?
    > Ducking for cover,
    > Dean Pappas
    >
    >
    > Dean Pappas
    > Sr. Design Engineer
    > Kodeos Communications
    > 111 Corporate Blvd.
    > South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
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    > (908) 222-2392 fax
    > d.pappas at kodeos.com
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