DZ160s-and others-opinions-opinions

Terry Brox tbrox at cox.net
Wed Jan 21 11:19:22 AKST 2004


I too have seen the same thing. Especially radio equipment. JR still has the best servos. Terry
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lance Van Nostrand 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 1:51 PM
  Subject: Re: DZ160s-and others-opinions-opinions


  I know a few sponsored pilots that were unhappy with the product and very quietly used something else.  Those high profile people that are sponsored are not an influence to my buying because I know their setup will work well for them, regardless of the general quality/reliability of that sponsored item.  
  --Lance

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Terry Brox 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 9:59 AM
    Subject: Re: DZ160s-and others-opinions-opinions


    One thing that hasnt been pointed out, many of the "sponsored" pilots that I know do not get a "free" ride, they still pay, but do get a discount. I have seen sales from the mail order houses that were not much more than some of these pilots pay. 
    Gray is right on the money pointing out that the planes engines and radios are all good. And as was pointed out last week, choose what you have access to the most help in your area. Personally, I am a die hard YS fan and as yet, havent had the problems the YS bashers complain about (at least nothing the engine was at fault for). And I do know where a Sponsored pilot was instrumental in the sale of a YS and Morgan fuel. If you want to know that detail, contact me off list as I do not want to start another "war".  Good luck in 2004, Terry
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Gray E Fowler 
      To: discussion at nsrca.org 
      Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 9:13 AM
      Subject: DZ160s-and others-opinions-opinions



      Here is opinion #56.4 

      This is for the newer guys as I know for sure that some that have been around are firmly entrenched in their pattern behaviour.... 

      Kudos to anyone who is sponsored. Who is gonna argue with free stuff.  Rest assured that obtaining that engine or that radio is not going to make you better- If you have a "decent" radio and engine already.  I really wonder why the MFGs sponsor at all. Let me hear from the people who went out and bought a piece of equipment simply because they saw a sponsored pilot used it.  I really know why the MFGs sponsor, because even though no one will probably admit to it, sponsorship works to a point. 

      The list of decent engines and radios is pretty good, there are several good choices and most of them do not require anywhere near $1000. The new guys should ask around and get opinions and remember that most of what you will hear is total opinion and alot of time non scientific based.   Just about any computer radio will get you through many seasons as you get better and better (because you are flying). And this thing about the biggest D...... I mean the biggest engine, the most RPMs, is very difficult to sort through. What rarely you hear is apple to apples comparison. Every engine 1.4 and up on the market will do the job from at least into Masters....and when you get to Masters....I would be much more worried about my actual flying skills than and extra 300-500 RPM (especially when that really comes from 30% nitro at $25/gal). 

      The question stands.......Ask any pattern flyer if he thinks his current plane is "a good plane" and then count the negative answers. I have yet to hear "This plane sucks but I am gonna fly it this year anyway".  Same goes with radios and engines. Why? Because the planes radios and engines available are good.....even if a sponsored pilot is not using it.......... 

      Signed 

       "A two stroke guy too stupid to buy a Futaba, or a DZ"



      Gray Fowler
      Principal Chemical Engineer
      Composites Engineering
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