Speaking of lessons learned (was are you looking for somethin g)

Del K. Rykert drykert at rochester.rr.com
Mon Jan 19 10:50:54 AKST 2004


Or staying away from electronic trims...

    All my radios have been mechanical and will stay that way if I have my
way..

                  del
               NSRCA - 473

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "White, Chris" <chris at ssd.fsi.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: Speaking of lessons learned (was are you looking for somethin
g)


> Hi Keith,
> Funny you should write that....I had the very same thing happen a few
months
> ago, but fortunately it was throttle trim.....BEEP beep beep beep beep....
> what the heck? (Futaba 8U) I thought I was losing transmitter
voltage!!!!and
> got it on the ground fast.  After landing I realized the strap snap
> problem....now my preflight includes a quick check of my strap.   A strong
> case for trays:)
>
> Chris
> NSRCS 3601
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Keith Black
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 1:08 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Speaking of lessons learned (was are you looking for
> something)
>
>
> Speaking of lessons learned!
>
> Saturday I went flying in a brief window of good weather. I was anxious to
> go not only because I'm always anxious to go but I was also anxious to try
> out my new 10X.
>
> I'd spent a lot of time making 100% sure that everything on the 10X
behaved
> exactly as my old 8103. As the plane reaches lift-off speed I gently
pulled
> back on the elevator and the plane pulled up hard going straight up. I
> thought to myself "that wasn't very smooth". I apply a slight bit of down
to
> level it out but still it's going straight up, and beginning loop
backwards.
> Now I push a lot of down to keep it from coming over. I'm thinking "I
can't
> believe I missed the setup that bad, there's no way... fix the trim and
see
> what's wrong on the ground". I feed in down trim, barley any effect, now I
> feed in a lot of down and finally get it leveled out, then suddenly vroom
> straight up again. I think "OH NO, CHECK THE ANTENNA", but it's up. Shove
in
> down, get it level, hit trims more, plane levels then surges up again.
Back
> off the throttle, hold down, plane levels but is so slow it's mushy and I
> think maybe the ailerons are also gone. Wait, no it's turning now. Level
the
> elevator trim again. Then I hear that beep, beep, beep, beeeep of the
trims
> moving BY THEMSELVES! "Oh NO the radio's flaking out! Did I spill water or
> my cleaner on it? It wasn't having any problems before!"  Now the plane is
> doing a wild porpoise routine all around. I think to myself that there's
no
> way this things getting on the ground without being destroyed. I call for
> help, no pattern fliers there, mainly newbies, finally one seasoned pilot
> comes to my side. I tell him the radios got problems, the trims are going
> nuts. He encourages me to just get it down the best I can. I make a long
> slow porpoising circle to line up for landing. He says, " the field's wet
> and soft just set it down out there and maybe it won't get damaged too
bad."
> I pull up the retracts, try to level it out, it's coming at the runway at
a
> 45 deg angle, I've got to get it down before it gets too close! Kill the
> engine, forget the trims now just hold down, it's pretty sensitive, just
> easing off the elevator slightly makes it porpoise up again. It's level
now,
> gentle, gentle...  I can't believe it, it's on the ground smooth as silk!
>
> Now I look down at the radio and see what the problem is! The ring that's
on
> the end of my neck strap was caught behind the elevator trim. The weight
> from the radio on the strap was pulling the trim back to full up trim!
With
> the trim precision set to 4 steps per click full up trim was a lot of
trim.
>
> I can't believe how close I was to loosing my plane over something so
> stupid! I've used that same strap with my 8103 for the last two and a half
> years and that's never happened, but on the 10X the trims are just enough
> closer and/or higher to allow the ring on the end to get wedged between
the
> trim and strap connector.
>
> I should point out that I was not using the strap that comes with the 10X,
> the one I was using is more comfortable, but from now on I'll opt for
> control over comfort. :-D
>
> Keith Black
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "D Suding" <junk at velocitus.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Dennis Suding, are you looking for something?
>
>
> > Okay, I left my wings to my Temptation at the field one night last week.
> > My wife is 9 months pregnant and my mind isn't with my wings. Thankfully
> > Tony Quist recognized them and took them to the nearest hobby shop
> > (Franks)
> >
> > Let this be a lesson, kids: Don't forget your wings!  It's hard to fly
> > without them.
> >
> > Thanks again Tony!!!
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > Dennis email me privately.
> > >
> > > Tony
> >
> >
> >
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