Sitting in the plane or not ?

[Keith Black]

Eddie,

The loop initially gave me trouble in Sportsman. Here are a couple of things
you might try.

1. Remember when doing the loop that the rudder direction to move you in or
out never changes. Let's say your flying left to right, left rudder will
always move you out and right will always move you in. I don't know why but
it took me a long time to realize this. I think I was worrying too much
about inverted rudder/upright rudder to see the obvious. Your plane never
rolls so the rudder never reverses. Yes, the plane does go inverted but when
it does it reverses directions so the rudder direction doesn't have to
change. When doing the loop just think about the rudder direction as if the
plane is right side up all the time and you'll always be correct.

2. Practice doing LOTS of loops and intentionally move the plane out, in,
out. If the loops start getting off track (pointing in or out) practice
getting them straightened back out while still looping. Realize that you
can't completely control this with just the rudder, you have to continually
work the ailerons to keep it on track. Don't initially worry if it looks
pretty getting it straightened out, just get it straight. Be sure to
practice in both directions.

Keith Black

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "W. Eddie Batchelor" <perkinsrx at centurytel.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: Sitting in the plane or not ?


> This thread has been very interesting for me. I flew in my 1st contest at
> LARKS last Aug and will be flying sportsman this year and looking foward
to
> the big MOVE up to INT   :-))
> I am having trouble with the back side of my 2 loops  (I'll go the wrong
way
> 99&99/100ths % of the time).
> I know I've got to conquer this now OR I'll never improve. How can I ever
do
> a  half square loop with 1/2 roll in vertical, if I can't even do a loop
> with out scewing off to one side  ??
>
> I've read and studied Don Ramsey's Rudder Control tips and haven't seemed
to
> find anything that works. Oh sure it sounds correct when I read it , but
the
> next day, with the TX in my hands I'm trying to remember when to push what
> ??
>
> Thanks Keith for explaining your struggle with this.  I think your
> explanation has helped me alot. I'll know better tomorrow if I get to fly
> (weather doesn't look promising). Also I do realise that somethings are
only
> learned with practice. I am getting to the point that top rudder when
> rolling into knife-edge feels natural, so maybe the rudder direction when
> inverted will become more natural feeling wiht more practice. :-))
>
> Eddie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Black" <tkeithb at comcast.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 2:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Sitting in the plane or not ?
>
>
> > Secondly, when the plane was directly in front of me, like
> > doing a centered loop for example, I would get totally confused if I
> should
> > be driving the tail or the nose.
> >
> > To resolve this I dropped the drive the nose portion of the rule and now
> use
> > only the "push the tail" part of the rule. This means that mentally I
> always
> > have to be thinking from behind the plane which is actually similar to
> > getting into the cockpit. However, I never "mentally" roll upside down,
I
> > just remember to push the tail if I'm inverted or use normal rudder if
not
> > inverted. Now when flying past center or doing centered maneuvers, like
a
> > loop for example, I don't have any mental transition points at least
> > relative to pushing the nose of the tail. Granted I have to mentally
> > transition from right side up to inverted but I can handle that.
> >
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > >
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