Sitting in the plane or not ?

W. Eddie Batchelor perkinsrx at centurytel.net
Mon Feb 9 15:11:01 AKST 2004


This thread has been very interesting for me. I flew in my 1st contest at
LARKS last Aug and will be flying sportsman this year and looking foward to
the big MOVE up to INT   :-))
I am having trouble with the back side of my 2 loops  (I'll go the wrong way
99&99/100ths % of the time).
I know I've got to conquer this now OR I'll never improve. How can I ever do
a  half square loop with 1/2 roll in vertical, if I can't even do a loop
with out scewing off to one side  ??

I've read and studied Don Ramsey's Rudder Control tips and haven't seemed to
find anything that works. Oh sure it sounds correct when I read it , but the
next day, with the TX in my hands I'm trying to remember when to push what
??

Thanks Keith for explaining your struggle with this.  I think your
explanation has helped me alot. I'll know better tomorrow if I get to fly
(weather doesn't look promising). Also I do realise that somethings are only
learned with practice. I am getting to the point that top rudder when
rolling into knife-edge feels natural, so maybe the rudder direction when
inverted will become more natural feeling wiht more practice. :-))

Eddie


----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Black" <tkeithb at comcast.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: Sitting in the plane or not ?


> Secondly, when the plane was directly in front of me, like
> doing a centered loop for example, I would get totally confused if I
should
> be driving the tail or the nose.
>
> To resolve this I dropped the drive the nose portion of the rule and now
use
> only the "push the tail" part of the rule. This means that mentally I
always
> have to be thinking from behind the plane which is actually similar to
> getting into the cockpit. However, I never "mentally" roll upside down, I
> just remember to push the tail if I'm inverted or use normal rudder if not
> inverted. Now when flying past center or doing centered maneuvers, like a
> loop for example, I don't have any mental transition points at least
> relative to pushing the nose of the tail. Granted I have to mentally
> transition from right side up to inverted but I can handle that.
>
>
> Keith
>
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