Displacement during snaps ** del klipped for reposting **

Ed Alt Ed_Alt at hotmail.com
Wed Dec 29 07:12:19 AKST 2004


But it's the pilot's job to clearly present the manuever to remove any doubt 
in the judges mind that a pitch break/autorotation actually did happen. 
I've been zeroed a few times when I *knew* that I did the pitch break right, 
but both judges saw it differently.  One time, it was Peter Goldsmith and he 
nicely explained afterwards what he saw.  I couldn't really argue.  I just 
had to go back and work harder on getting my timing right to better show a 
break before, or at least simultaneous with the autorotation.

Ed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Lachowski" <jlachow at hotmail.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: Displacement during snaps ** del klipped for reposting **


> Del, awhile back I saw someones video of Quiques snap. In regular speed it 
> looks very suspect.
> When the video was slowed down, you could actually see the break in pitch 
> clearly.
>
> The way I look at it is , if it ain't an axial roll and if it ain't a 
> barrel roll, it must be a snap. Just show me, as I call it, " the train 
> wreck".<g> Of course, I have seen guys doing rolls in the last portion of 
> the snap to get a clean stop on position. You know waht that scores?<g>
>
>
>>From: "Del Rykert" <drykert at localnet.com>
>>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>Subject: Displacement during snaps ** del klipped for reposting **
>>Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:05:28 -0500
>>
>>If I were judging Somenzini's snap from what I have read described so far 
>>it would earn a zero. As was previously clearly stated on this list a true 
>>snap must show a discernable break. That means to me that the aircraft 
>>must demonstrate a shift. The question of how much I think is semantics as 
>>I wasn't born with calibrated eyeballs and haven't been able to train them 
>>to become such. If I were judging a snap and saw a shift of more than 2 
>>1/2 wing spans I would suspect it would be entering a barrel roll. Purely 
>>conjecture on my part.
>>     Great thread.
>>
>>         del
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: John Ferrell
>>   To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>   Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 9:19 AM
>>   Subject: Re: Displacement during snap rolls (was Why is it so quiet?)
>>
>>
>>   As near as I can tell Somenzini's secret is in the setup, not the snap 
>> itself.
>>   The only place I see to downgrade for offset is in presentation.
>>
>>   I admit to being one of his fans.
>>
>>   I think the question is a very good one!
>>
>>   John Ferrell
>>   http://DixieNC.US
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     From: Bob Pastorello
>>     To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>     Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:47 AM
>>     Subject: Re: Displacement during snap rolls (was Why is it so quiet?)
>>
>
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