Newbie with a bad experience at pattern [PMX:]

Sat Dec 18 05:28:37 AKST 2004

On 12/17/04 6:27 PM, "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net> wrote:

> 
> On Dec 17, 2004, at 5:14 PM, Jim Ivey wrote:
> 
>> Hey Mike
>> Move to Atlanta and I will help you. I have 5 guys under wing now and
>> can add another.
> 
> Yeah.  Jim's got big wings.  The rest of him is big too!
> 
> Ron Van Putte
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: "Pascale, Mike" <VPASCAL at citgo.com>
>>> Date: 2004/12/17 Fri PM 01:33:21 EST
>>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>> Subject: RE: Newbie with a bad experience at pattern [PMX:]
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the encouragement
>>> Have a merry Christmas
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>>> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Fletcher, Richard
>>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 12:26 PM
>>> To: 'discussion at nsrca.org'
>>> Subject: RE: Newbie with a bad experience at pattern [PMX:]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike,
>>> 
>>>     Stick with the Focus II and you'll be all set. It won the Nats in
>>> '03
>>> and is as good a plane as there is on the market. I have one with an
>>> OS 160
>>> and it was easy to setup and inexpensive as well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Rich
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  ----Original Message-----
>>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>>> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Bob Pastorello
>>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 1:06 PM
>>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>> Subject: Re: Newbie with a bad experience at pattern
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike, your story sounds like it was bad for you.  If so, I apologize.
>>> 
>>> BUT - Your tale is the exception, by far.  If you browse a bit on
>>> RCU, ask
>>> some questions, ask on this list, I think you'd find that 99.9% of
>>> the time
>>> a "newbie" gets OVERWHELMED with offers of help.  Maybe I'm wrong,
>>> but it's
>>> sure been my experience.
>>> 
>>> As to your comment about Masters not forgetting where we came from -
>>> well,
>>> some may.  But certainly not all, and certainly MOST Masters pilots
>>> *ARE*
>>> the guys that are advocating for reason, logic, and
>>> cost-effectiveness in
>>> the game.
>>>     We know what it took to get started, and did it at a time when
>>> things
>>> weren't quite as rosy as they are right now, let me tell you.
>>> 
>>> Bad experiences happen, but I hope that regardless, you'll look at the
>>> broader picture.  There isn't a finer group of guys who are committed
>>> to the
>>> game than Pattern Pilots.
>>> 
>>> Bob Pastorello
>>> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
>>> rcaerobob at cox.net <mailto:rcaerobob at cox.net>
>>> www.rcaerobats.net <http://www.rcaerobats.net>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Pascale,  <mailto:VPASCAL at citgo.com> Mike
>>> To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 10:56 AM
>>> Subject: Newbie with a bad experience at pattern
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Let me tell you a short story from a newbie I flew for appox 10yrs
>>> till 1978
>>> when I retired. Went to my first pattern contest in 2003 and said
>>> that's
>>> what I want to do seen all those pretty birds and had to have one
>>> asked
>>> around and  was told someone said he sells kits. He lives in middle of
>>> Texas.  all right asked if he had any for sell no but can get me a
>>> kit in a
>>> couple months could hardly wait e-mailed him told me how much $
>>> 495.00 wing
>>> Fuse. And stab and a set of instruction. Well the fuselage was
>>> cracked in
>>> two place the wings cores had no holes cut in them as I said no
>>> nothing just
>>> cores now I'm lost so I email him and he says send them back at my
>>> cost
>>> another $45.00 and still no idea how to build this plane this guy
>>> Tells me
>>> about A person in Nederland TX that fly's pattern maybe he cane help
>>> I call
>>> him and Buddy Brammer, Larry Mercer Ray Rhodes took me under there
>>> wing now
>>> ever Friday I was going back and forth trying to get my fist patter
>>> plane in
>>> the air had the fuselage ready to fill in all the holes left from the
>>> molds
>>> I start epoxy and micro balloons  looking good till I start sanding
>>> them
>>> smooth and low and be hold all the stuff I just put on fell off now
>>> I'm in
>>> to $750 and still no were near being done well guess what the
>>> fuselage is
>>> setting on my shelf and still no pattern plane. I flew a U CAN DO in
>>> my
>>> first contest  and second  went Nederland TX and third to Hot springs
>>> and
>>> flew over there won as I was the only sportsman flying ever one was
>>> encouraging but still no patter plane tried to talk to the people
>>> that sold
>>> me MY fist plane and was told in so many words I didn't do ii right
>>> now I
>>> have a contest in Lake Charles La so guess what I flew the U CAN DO
>>> in 25
>>> mph and didn't win but had a lot of fun Thanks to Buddy, Ray, and
>>> Larry,Ed ,
>>> Ned
>>> 
>>> Now I have a Focus 11and have spent appox 2500.00 and still haven't
>>> flown a
>>> patter plane I see this guys name all the time on this web site and
>>> they
>>> have all the ans . But he had no TIME for a newbie except my money
>>> and you
>>> all want to know why your membership is dropping as one of the guys
>>> said
>>> take someone under your wing its amazing what will come out maybe a
>>> world
>>> Champaign One more thing You all that fly Masters and up some times
>>> it helps
>>> to remember where you all started some time you can't see the ground
>>> for all
>>> the trees.Its not fun when you're the only one flying.
>>> 
>>> I will fly pattern and will win but no help from the people from
>>> Dallas Fort
>>> worth area
>>> 
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Where in Atlanta?  I live am looking for Pattern fliers. I flew advanced in
District 10 and want to get back in.  Contact me off line
Randall Bearden
rbearden56 at earthlink.net

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