Newbie with a bad experience at pattern [PMX:]

[Ron Van Putte]

On Dec 17, 2004, at 5:14 PM, Jim Ivey wrote:

> Hey Mike
> Move to Atlanta and I will help you. I have 5 guys under wing now and 
> can add another.

Yeah.  Jim's got big wings.  The rest of him is big too!

Ron Van Putte

>
>
>> From: "Pascale, Mike" <VPASCAL at citgo.com>
>> Date: 2004/12/17 Fri PM 01:33:21 EST
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> Subject: RE: Newbie with a bad experience at pattern [PMX:]
>>
>> Thanks for the encouragement
>> Have a merry Christmas
>> Mike
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
>> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On
>> Behalf Of Fletcher, Richard
>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 12:26 PM
>> To: 'discussion at nsrca.org'
>> Subject: RE: Newbie with a bad experience at pattern [PMX:]
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>>     Stick with the Focus II and you'll be all set. It won the Nats in 
>> '03
>> and is as good a plane as there is on the market. I have one with an 
>> OS 160
>> and it was easy to setup and inexpensive as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Rich
>>
>>
>>
>>  ----Original Message-----
>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
>> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bob Pastorello
>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 1:06 PM
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> Subject: Re: Newbie with a bad experience at pattern
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike, your story sounds like it was bad for you.  If so, I apologize.
>>
>> BUT - Your tale is the exception, by far.  If you browse a bit on 
>> RCU, ask
>> some questions, ask on this list, I think you'd find that 99.9% of 
>> the time
>> a "newbie" gets OVERWHELMED with offers of help.  Maybe I'm wrong, 
>> but it's
>> sure been my experience.
>>
>> As to your comment about Masters not forgetting where we came from - 
>> well,
>> some may.  But certainly not all, and certainly MOST Masters pilots 
>> *ARE*
>> the guys that are advocating for reason, logic, and 
>> cost-effectiveness in
>> the game.
>>     We know what it took to get started, and did it at a time when 
>> things
>> weren't quite as rosy as they are right now, let me tell you.
>>
>> Bad experiences happen, but I hope that regardless, you'll look at the
>> broader picture.  There isn't a finer group of guys who are committed 
>> to the
>> game than Pattern Pilots.
>>
>> Bob Pastorello
>> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
>> rcaerobob at cox.net <mailto:rcaerobob at cox.net>
>> www.rcaerobats.net <http://www.rcaerobats.net>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Pascale,  <mailto:VPASCAL at citgo.com> Mike
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 10:56 AM
>> Subject: Newbie with a bad experience at pattern
>>
>>
>> Let me tell you a short story from a newbie I flew for appox 10yrs 
>> till 1978
>> when I retired. Went to my first pattern contest in 2003 and said 
>> that's
>> what I want to do seen all those pretty birds and had to have one 
>> asked
>> around and  was told someone said he sells kits. He lives in middle of
>> Texas.  all right asked if he had any for sell no but can get me a 
>> kit in a
>> couple months could hardly wait e-mailed him told me how much $ 
>> 495.00 wing
>> Fuse. And stab and a set of instruction. Well the fuselage was 
>> cracked in
>> two place the wings cores had no holes cut in them as I said no 
>> nothing just
>> cores now I'm lost so I email him and he says send them back at my 
>> cost
>> another $45.00 and still no idea how to build this plane this guy 
>> Tells me
>> about A person in Nederland TX that fly's pattern maybe he cane help 
>> I call
>> him and Buddy Brammer, Larry Mercer Ray Rhodes took me under there 
>> wing now
>> ever Friday I was going back and forth trying to get my fist patter 
>> plane in
>> the air had the fuselage ready to fill in all the holes left from the 
>> molds
>> I start epoxy and micro balloons  looking good till I start sanding 
>> them
>> smooth and low and be hold all the stuff I just put on fell off now 
>> I'm in
>> to $750 and still no were near being done well guess what the 
>> fuselage is
>> setting on my shelf and still no pattern plane. I flew a U CAN DO in 
>> my
>> first contest  and second  went Nederland TX and third to Hot springs 
>> and
>> flew over there won as I was the only sportsman flying ever one was
>> encouraging but still no patter plane tried to talk to the people 
>> that sold
>> me MY fist plane and was told in so many words I didn't do ii right 
>> now I
>> have a contest in Lake Charles La so guess what I flew the U CAN DO 
>> in 25
>> mph and didn't win but had a lot of fun Thanks to Buddy, Ray, and 
>> Larry,Ed ,
>> Ned
>>
>> Now I have a Focus 11and have spent appox 2500.00 and still haven't 
>> flown a
>> patter plane I see this guys name all the time on this web site and 
>> they
>> have all the ans . But he had no TIME for a newbie except my money 
>> and you
>> all want to know why your membership is dropping as one of the guys 
>> said
>> take someone under your wing its amazing what will come out maybe a 
>> world
>> Champaign One more thing You all that fly Masters and up some times 
>> it helps
>> to remember where you all started some time you can't see the ground 
>> for all
>> the trees.Its not fun when you're the only one flying.
>>
>> I will fly pattern and will win but no help from the people from 
>> Dallas Fort
>> worth area
>>
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